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George springer cheated and may not be reliable and good; signing george springer makes the white sox elite. Not sure what is off but I could just be blind on this word choice.

I love Jimmy Mac... and I think anyone who thinks he should start and is better is completely blind. Mccann should be singing his best graces towards the Sox who have put him in a position to look as good as possible this year; well played match ups. That doesn't take away from how awesome he's been. This thread is comical though

The paradox is; George Springer benefited from cheating and hasn't been as good this year as he was in years past when he was allegedly cheating and the White Sox would be smart to sign George Springer.

Because guys who drop 6.5 fWAR seasons in 122 games don't grow on trees. Springer's ceiling is mesmerizing and always has been. When he's at his best, he's one of the better players in the game. I actually think the perfect storm of questions is a blessing for the Sox and any team interested. He could easily outperform his contract. I want to sign him because he fits perfectly with this team and roster. He is the final piece to an elite offense. Springer could be the 800 OPS player he's "struggled" as this year and he'd still be a damn good piece.

Of all the players I want the Sox to sign this off-season, George Springer ranks #1. That said, I don't think anyone will be effected more by this off-season than him. Springer didn't have a chance to play a full season this year, and he was coming off speculation surrounding the Astros cheating scandal. In addition to that, Springer hasn't exactly been a beacon of consistency and/or health throughout his career. Each of the past three years, he dealt with nagging injuries that kept him out for some time; playing a high of 140 games in those three seasons. In addition, Springer has seen fluctuation in his production: 889, 780, 974, 798 being his OPS' each of the past four seasons. When Springer is good, he's great - posting a 6.5 fWAR in 122 games in 2019, but he's also capable of being just a nice player. Pair that with the speculation surrounding the Astros cheating and how players would bounce back, his age (he'll be 32 next season) and his lack of consistent elite production and what do you get? A player who is going to have to overcome some obstacles to get that huge long payday in an off-season effected mightily by COVID. You have to figure teams are already going to cut back spending, and that will start first with free agents. What contract can you expect Springer to get? 3 years, 90 million? 3 years 80 million? Does he get a 4th year? Regardless, the Nomar Mazara experiment can't be what the White Sox expected, and unless they were committed to two years from the day they got him, or unless he gets on one torrid streak here to finish the season, you have to figure he's on his way out.

Thanks Yermin, I understand that; I'm saying a reliever should almost receive credit for stranding a runner that he inherits in some way.

And I'll add what Rick Renteria is doing to Jimmy Cordero is criminal; even if Cordero says he feels good every day. I also think stranded runners should lower a relievers ERA based on the expected runs scored when he enters the game. Cordero's ERA is inflated but he's actually been pretty damn good this year.

how much is the entry? when do you assume control of the team?

No.

The overuse of the bullpen has been building up since the first couple of weeks. Guys always want to know why certain guys aren't pitching and certain are and it has a lot to do with the year long management as well as the day to day. The White Sox are averaging 4.85 IP per Start; it's not good, but it's actually not anywhere near the worst this year. The Red Sox are only getting 3.8 IP per start. The Sox are actually 11th in baseball in IP per start, so they are not alone in this issue. Is that different than most years? The Sox would be on pace to throw 785 IP with their starters over the course of a 162 game season. Last year that would have ranked them 26th out of 30 teams in all of baseball in fewest IP by starters. That means clearly this year has moved the needled heavily in favor of bullpens. What does that mean? Really, who knows. If the Bullpens are worn down earlier, it could lead to a higher scoring post season or more reliance on the starters to go longer since they were the ones preserved earlier in the season. If Cease can figure it out that bodes well for the Sox, imo, as the starting pitching around baseball is struggling in general. Last year, White Sox relievers threw 574 IP in 162 games; this year, the Sox are on pace to throw 235 innings in just 60 games, which would equate to 634.6 IP in the course of a regular year. The Sox are leaning on their bullpen significantly more than years past, and they're hoping it bends at points but never breaks. Time will tell, but next time you're wondering why Renteria doesn't pull every starter at the first sign of weakness, this is why.

Not sure if Caufield was throwing me dap or shade, similarly to this thread being about 2006 but not 2006 but kind of 2006 but not totally 2006 but maybe similar to 2006 in ways but not the same but could be bad just like then but not positive if that's going to happen but maybe it will... oh 2006

Mazara stinks; great pitches to hit. expect Vaughn to be here shortly.

defensively he reminds me of a buxton clone. great reads and jumps; always a straight line path to the ball. no rounded routes. someone who reads the sound more than the barrel speed naturally. offensively he's just light years ahead of young buxton. robert has a chance to be in that conversation people dont like putting young players into

Keuchel has more games pitched past the 5th innings than 85% of baseball this year.

So much Mazara anger in this thread tonight, his game winning 2 run homer should be on que.

tommy probably wishes he was pitching right now too. sox for sure miss bummer.

hahaha I've always really loved Buxton. As a former significantly worse CF'er, I always have a bias there, and when you account for his overall game and greatness out there it's impossible for me to not be envious. I was scared he would skill us tonight and I was sadly wrong, even though he did kill us I'd rather see Byron healthy than banged up... although that hurts the sox.

Buxton has figured it out. Injuries have held him back a little this year but he figured it out in the middle of last year.

That's why Mazara is still below average out there. Jesus. Not an easy play but one a good fielder makes.

hes been much better since mid last year

I know it's not great for the Sox, but I hope Byron can stay healthy for a year. He is just an amazing player to watch and awesome for the game.

He is so fast... it is just absurd.

I mean.. there's only 3-4 guys in baseball getting there and 2 of them play for the White Sox but agree that he acted like it was a legendary homer lol. That said he's calling them based on the same feed as us.

Buxton... is.... amazing.

Thank GOD for advanced Metrics. People praised guys like jim Edmonds for years. Luis won't make a ton of diving plays and etc because his reads and jumps are like Keirmeier/Buxton/Druw and etc. Those guys make great plays but they're not highlight reels because they make hard plays look so damn easy.