Look at Ray Ray Run

It is by far the riskiest and least successful position drafted in mlb drafts.

Lol at people thinking Horn is a guy. Truly amazing. Guy was no where near a top 150 guy. He would not have been drafted anywhere close to here in a normal year and he was drafted there solely because he costs nothing. The draft ended after the 2nd round. Not a huge fan of a strategy putting all your eggs in two arm baskets and one of them is a right handed high school pitcher. Hope it works out but a lot of risk; I guess surviving a 5 round empty draft isnt that difficult though .

Here's my posts of "Absolutes." I was clearly implying the Sox draft was a 2 player draft. I said seniors because that's a frequent way of not spending. Sox went another route of a player not even ranked in the draft. Somehow these were absolutes. zzzzzzzz

I spoke in absolutes? Ok. Good reminder why I stopped checking into this place. I made a comment that the Sox draft was over because the first two picks would cost all their money, and the thread turned into some diatribe about how that wouldn't happen. My statement of seniors was merely a reference to the Sox not drafting anything of value the rest of the way. Your interpretation of that being an absolute is yours alone to make.

I guess they didn't draft a senior. Instead they drafted a guy who wasn't even ranked in the draft rankings this year. I guess you "got me". My entire point of the Sox draft was over after the first two rounds was disproved by the selection of **checks notes** Adisyn Coffey.

Hmmmmm, who saw it coming.

I agree they could still find some talent here, just saying the young high upside talent is out of the question. There could be a senior that ends up being a solid grab.

I said the entire time he would sign under slot. All I'm saying is those two combined are the entire draft pool and the Sox will not sign anyone else that has any meaningful demand. All seniors.

Let me clarify: They got him under slot, but they got him for a lot less under slot than they just spent over slot on round 2. I think it's a lot less of a savings as you guys seem to believe.

He will not go for 20th+ pick slot. Arguing that is absurd, imo. At best, they get him for around 3.75. And then they're having to pay Kelley 3 to 3.5+ and again, the pool is spent. The draft is over for the Sox.

I am agreeing they 100% can make them both fit. I'm saying they can not make anyone else fit.

This makes no sense. Juniors have plenty of leverage. Especially juniors in a year with so many questions, whom throw 99 MPH with elite secondary pitches from the left side who happen to be huge. Seniors have no leverage - even less than the zero they usually have. A junior still has a little leverage, and he can say he'll sign for less but it's not 1+ million less imo. No way. Not a guy with his talent in a unique situation.

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

The Cards getting Fletcher in, I believe, the Comp round last year is a travesty. I think Fletcher is going to be a star. He was a late blooming northeast kid. incredible athlete.

There's no reason the Sox should have saved a lot with Crochet.

Not hating; I said I usually prefer quantity, but I'll take these two. Still think it's really risky though and would rather have Ed + Kelley. Two arms is just a risk for me, and one high school righty.

They will be north of 6.3. They are north of 7. 6.3 would be well below what they can demand and are looking for.

Complete joke; with you there. They have benefited big time from it too.

Ding ding ding. Harold and I on the same page. Sox just spent all their money on two pitchers. Risky for sure - high upside, big downside.

No chance imo. I'm guessing Sox have spent 7.5 million min of their 7.7. They have nothing left. This is a two man draft + seniors. 11th slot is 4.57; Sox could MAYBE push him back to 15-16 money at 3.7. Then their 2nd round pick wanted top tier money, and was as high as 10 on some boards. In the second, if you gave him top 15 money he'd probably forego school. Maybe top 20. That's another 3.25 min.

Kelley was never going to be a cheap sign. He had first 15 money all over him in this draft. Gotta believe that sox aren't getting a discount really at 11 either. Sox are going to be spending, I'm guessing, 4.2 and 3.5 on the top 2 picks. that's 7.7 which is there pool. At best, maybe 4.2 and 3, and they have .5 left. Nothing. I think Sox worked it out to fit those two under pool, and rest of the way is a punt. Those guys both could argue top 15 money which is the entire pool

Yeah, I think the Sox draft is pretty much over in regards to super high upside young talent. It's seniors the rest of the way, or juniors they're praying are concerned about having a packed draft next year. I'd say seniors though.

How much money could the Sox really have left? They are kind of stuck now the rest of the way, no?

So the draft is over for the Sox though, right? These two will take up pretty much all of their pool in regards to signing anyone else of real sneaky talent. Doesn't mean they can't find someone seniors and etc. Great draft, but sometimes I do prefer quantity - especially with the risk of SP's. That said, these two guys have great builds and upsides and could be exciting. Role the dice enough and things will come up how you hope.

Reality is they've actually been good at developing pitching when compared to the league. This pick is fine - I'd like more production. The Sale comps ring hollow given how dominant Sale was in college as well.