Look at Ray Ray Run

I think Ozzie already interviewed and feels more like the Sox doing him a service by publicly calling him a candidate. Can't see them bringing him back.

His breakdown about how a bank won't let an owner borrow against team value because they would then have to accept an mlb team as payment if they default is one of the dumbest things I've read on Twitter in a long time.

I would cite sources but you'd discredit them as ignoring these amazing and valuable qualities. The fact is, the stuff you cited has a marginal impact, at best, over 162 games. I could cite sources, or the fact that high paid managers are making 5 million at most when 1 WAR players are making 8 million which should show you how much value people running teams and analyzing this stuff for a living put on their impact, but it's fair to say you'd ignore that so we'll just agree to disagree.

I don't care if I'm in the minority, I'd love a Willie Harris hire. A guy who grinded his way through a big league career, played with a ton of energy, and I think would defer to analytics without pushback in a lot of ways because he's a first year guy. I don't care if it's irrational or not well received, I'd love me some Willie. Thome would be awful. Ozzie quit on the organization when things got bad, can't be trusted.

oh my, managers are arguably worth less than 2 wins (unless you're la russa) in a 162 game regular season and you think they have some significant W/L impact on the post-season outcomes. You know why the best team doesn't win every year? Small sample variance.

Kimbrel and Kopech are two of my best pals in the organization.

I too think I'm the right person for the job.

The standard I'm using should have said over the past two years. The past two years they're 2nd in baseball in pitching WAR. They were 10th in fWAR this year. 10th in FIP. Its not Katz fault the sox had an abysmal defense behind his pitchers.

I would argue we haven't seen significant offensive growth from any of the young guys under menechino. Sheets had to go down to the minors to "find his way." Menechino and Katz aren't at all similar imo. Sox have had a top tier staff two years in a row under katz.

Yeah, firing Katz makes no sense. Not even Katz can fix all the broken s%*# Hahn throws at him in the pen. If anything they should have given him a chance to improve some young guys out there, instead of weighing him down with aging vets who are overrated hacks like Kelly.

Did you also notice his games played? lol

so rick hahn makes none of the decisions what so ever and is just a figure head taking orders from everyone else?

Rick Hahn has been investing heavily in relievers before Tony LaRussa ever walked in the door. Rick Hahn traded for Craig Kimbrel. Rick Hahn gave Kendall Graveman a 3 year deal. This nonsense that it was Tony... or Kenny... or Jerry is just laughable at this point. Rick Hahn is the general manager of the team, the buck stops with him. Part of being in charge is receiving feedback and acting on the feedback you agree with and talking your way out of the feedback you don't.

As a former Rick Hahn stan, I blasted and ridiculed Kenny Williams at every turn. Every bad choice made by the organization was Kenny's fault, every good one was Rick. Looking back after a decade of control, it's fair to say that the White Sox would be better off with Kenny Williams in charge and it's not even close. Kenny took over the GM role in 2000. He held that job until 2012. In the 12 years that Kenny Williams was in control of the White Sox, the White Sox were: 1109-998 (.526 WP%). They made the playoffs three times and won the World Series once. Here's the kicker though, under the current playoff format, they would have made the playoffs SIX times in 13 years. The White Sox had three losing seasons in his tenure, with the worst being a 72 win season and two 79 win seasons. For all intents and purposes, Kenny Williams kept the White Sox competitive year in and year out, on a limited budget much of the time, and with a minimal investment in the farm system and international signings. Kenny worked around his owner who didn't give him the resources and made season after season exciting. Rick Hahn has been at the helm from 2012/13-2022. In Rick Hahn's tenure, the White Sox are: 695-814 (.460 WP%). They made the playoffs twice, one in the COVID shortened season. They have had TWO winnings seasons and 7 losing seasons. They had four seasons with 72 wins or fewer (that was Kenny's worst season in charge), and this was with a bigger investment in international players, a larger investment in technology and the farm system, and a top 5 payroll this past season. Rick Hahn is a contract negotiator and that's it; he's not a baseball guy. He doesn't know how to build a team to compete, and he doesn't know how to maintain any form of sustained competitiveness. While Tony LaRussa obviously needs to be fired, I wanted to right a wrong here today. The blame for this season is on Tony AND Rick. His insistence on paying bullpen arms and investing his resources there is inexcusable. Allowing 2B and RF to be in the bottom three in baseball in WAR when he knew it was a weakness is unforgivable. The White Sox weren't unlucky, they were poorly managed and badly prepared for the expected outcomes of their players in regards to health and longevity. Kenny Williams wasn't the best GM in baseball, but he was a guy who put a competitive product on the field nearly every year for over a decade. He would have made the playoffs nearly 50% of his seasons under the new format, and truly only had one atrocious season. Kenny was better than Hahn, and it's not close. The Hahn excuse makers are some of the weirdest people in baseball to me. They are still making excuses for that bozo - blaming Kenny and TLR for his failures, yet Kenny Williams was 100% more successful than Rick Hahn as a GM, so if anything... we should be giving credit for the good moves to Kenny and the bad ones to Slick Rick; because criticism slides right off Rick.

Yeah, probably right here but guy might be willing to get outta this org and take a small pay cut to go elsewhere lol. Reylo in the pen too. Forgot him.

I think there's very little chance the Sox do anything but shed salary this off-season for the most part. My prediction: Abreu, Pollock and Harrison - gone. That removes 40 million from the payroll. Sox likely use: RF Colas CF Robert LF - Probably sign someone cheap 3B Moncada SS Tim 2B Sosa 1B Vaughn DH Eloy C Grandal SP Cease SP Lynn SP Giolito SP Kopech SP Cheap filler - maybe try and catch lightning in a bottle twice with Cueto Bullpen Hendriks Bummer Kelly Graveman Deikman Ruiz Lambert SIgn someone who will be the worst reliever in the game Hahn style (another "major splash" on RP Bench Leury Romy Engel That's the 2023 White Sox No way the old man increases payroll or keeps it that high after missing the playoffs. Team will pray they stay healthy and that Grandal/Moncada/Robert bounce back 100% and play better Is this what I would do? Obviously not. But this is what I see them doing.

Didn't you write some long post about how Tony isn't Good at his job or something? Now you're back with your stupid la russa avatar defending him like he's your dad. No one's takes are more laughable than yours.

Imagine being krankin and ignoring reality so you can stan for some 76 year old drunk who wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

Imagine thinking Tony should come anywhere near this team again.

Imagine being so simple minded that you can't see the dramatic shift in demeanor, attitude, and desire once the old geezer left the dugout.

Let's make a statement and sweep Oakland!

And... here. We. Go.

Have I been more wrong about anything in my baseball analysis life than reylo as a reliever this year? No. And I ficking love it for that guy. Love that it embarrases Rick too at the same time. Keep shoving reylo!

I've been trying to enjoy the division push and be positive despite the team being hard to be positive about. No more tlr to hold them back. Have loved cairos in game moves so far (although would have went reylo for 2 tonight). We need a Cy fucking shove tomorrow from Dylan tomorrow night paired with a Robbie Ray dick shove against the Guardians and we're off life support Missed ya pal

Just find a way to get there. Crazier things have happened. Sox have the rotation pieces to have a prayer, they just need to pull of the first miracle.