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You cited things at the end of your paragraph that are more valuable than analytics/data when those things themselves are valuable because of the analytical outputs they derive.

Amazing what you think analyst's do.

This is an industry-wide problem and not at all unique to the White Sox. Professional sports in general pay less for the same roles, and still have a lot of unpaid or low-paid entry level jobs required to get your foot in the door. This basically gatekeeps the industry to only people who come from money because people who don't, can't afford to eat s%*# for 10 years in hopes of making one of the few properly paid jobs. Analytics is one of the craziest examples of this. Why would you be a quant in baseball unless you loved baseball and were rich already? You make about half of what other industries would pay you, and the job security is complete garbage. There are a few teams that are more competitive but they still bank on the value of "working in baseball" when they send out offers.

For free? Oh wow, honorable!

Correct. And when I say combined, I don't mean they shouldn't work together. I mean someone like Bannister shouldn't be identifying players to acquire that he can maximize. It's not his job or his skill. When you allow the developers to be the shot callers, you don't protect development from its own short comings, and confirmation bias that has gotten them here. "Every guy I've gotten like this before I turned into a stud" they may think, but the key was that before they weren't the ones identifying that player and his given fit, they were given a player and got the most out of them. While these teams/segments need to understand each other inside and out, the influence they have should be mostly siloed. For example, PE may say we're loving this guy, is there any hard stop we're missing but PD should never be able to sway an actual opinion (beyond the initial understanding of the players fit with your PDs strength) on that initial evaluation and they shouldn't be the ones that trigger the deep dive. I'd argue the GMs job is to understand the strength of both and find the fits.

Player evaluation (PE) and player development (PD)

In SIX innings lol PD and PE should be separate areas entirely. PE's job is to identify the strengths of your teams PD (in this case, a guy like Bannister) and identify players that fit that mold. When you put PD and PE together, you get way too much noise and opinion in the way of process. Think of it like being the coach and the GM. It rarely ever works. When i hear Bannister is doing PE then PD, that gives me concern.

Yeah, and I have nothing to say about Bannister the player evaluator. That's not a role I've known him to have a lot of insight into, but the normalization/consolidation of his throwing programs throughout all levels of the minors is a big plus. Could be offset if they're asking him to do something in PE though.

One of the most overthought things in business is whether to make a service line a vertical or a horizontal. Irregardless of how you structure the business, the viability comes down to leaders utilizing the resources best for the business and not just best for them. If you make analytics a vertical, you rely on leaders in other areas seeking out the insights even though the success of that department isn't tied to their team personally (meaning promotions, kudos, etc). If you make it a horizontal integrated in all service lines, you run the risk of your resource falling victim to bias or tunnel vision within their specific service line. Both pose risks. I'd prefer a vertical with leaders in other segments being intelligent enough to utilize the findings so that the analytics directive originates from a singular point as opposed to it being disseminated across all segments.

I'm giving Bannister the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't making roster decisions on arm talent, because I know of him and his program/reputation outside of Sox baseball. I'd also argue the Sox lucked into Bannister because of the situation he wanted/required of his employer not working with some other orgs.

Those same insiders told us these exact same things when the Sox started their first rebuild. "Hahn is finally in charge making all the moves we need as an organization." Five years later they told us nothing was done and it was all Jerry's fault lol.

Chris Getz has no foundation in analytics, nor does anyone in that building, Yes, it's a bad thing that an unqualified, incompetent dope is overhauling the entire organization. The hilarious thing is how people sing someone like Josh Barfields praises. What has Josh Barfield done? That's the big Getz victory? Bannister is the one good move Getz made. He's made about 100. He has no foundation in analytics, nor does anyone in that building, but he's overhauling the department? I'll also be the first to admit if I like the hire, but my expectation is that it won't be any better than the current iteration. Heck the current one might be less horrendous than I thought if Harold hates it. He's never seen a regression model that didn't make his head spin.

Nothing Jimmy loves doing more than telling you how the current guys in charge is competent and doing everything they can. All their failures are the owners fault. Celebrating Chris Getz, the guy who set the MLB record for incompetence, tearing down and rebuilding another department is hilarious. The only person more incompetent than Rick Hahn is Chris Getz.

A very large percentage of the population still has no idea how to operate apps and smart TV's. They use their cable box and that's what they're restricted too. And yes, exactly... just as I said. With streaming, thankfully these criminal enterprises and their reign is coming to an end but for many consumers, those things simply aren't an option.

The problem here caufield is that the carriers are the problem, not the teams. You don't realize that UTILITIES that are subsidized significantly by the government and have a near impossible point of entry for competition, leading to a monopolistic market, should not be able to use their market control to bully businesses. Thankfully with streaming and being able to go direct to consumer, this nonsense will only continue a little while longer before this pos get what they have coming to them.

Obviously not, because if you were you'd probably be a little more educated on this stuff, champ.

You're wrong about it being just mccourt but I don't wanna waste my time with a caufield post. Comcast are a bunch of clowns.

Agreed 100% on the own app. They should have had this three years ago, let alone now.

I honestly wonder if any of you follow any other city or situation. The Dodgers, for example, couldn't be viewed by half the LA area for SIX years. Did you talk about how incompetent they are as business people? First, you imply it's somehow the CHSN fault that Comcast would force them onto a tier more costly than marquee. I'm so confused why people on this site are stanning for Comcast. CHSN has stated Comcast has not even reached out to them, and they refuse to offer them the tier marquee is in, for example, despite being flexible on $$'s. In this case, Comcast can get fuked and calling the Bulls a fringe franchise is one of the dumbest things I've ever read here. The Bulls are worth more than the Cubs, pal. Basketball is the fastest growing sport globally as well.

If I get back to a computer I can provide you with an example.

There are absolutely ways to sell 49% of joint shares without diluting equity and leverage some of those funds to build a stadium. In fact, some can cash out all together if they don't want to reinvest the equity in a loan or different class share type.

Their bid was "here's what we might offer," which was 60% of what it sold for.

And a team in Nashville would rank near the bottom in team values. This isn't a complex equation. Take into account that expansion teams are cheaper to start/buy than buying a current franchise and moving it, AND the fact that MLB expansion is to grow the game not trade one larger market for a micro one. People that compare Oakland are either struggling with scale or don't know the math. Oakland had 450k people and the entire bay area has HALF the population of the Chicago area. The White Sox almost have the same market share as the Giants do WITHOUT the A's in the Bay Area. Las Vegas is larger than Oakland, and the Las Vegas metro is 65% the size of the Bay Area so Oakland is acquiring a higher market share with their move.

People that get rich enough to buy baseball teams don't make financial decisions that are being implied here. The sox are an original franchise, they're not the a's. Happy to place something with you if you think this is a possibility.

Shame we can't bet on these things, because I'd bet NBB any amount of money that someone else is not going to buy the Chicago White Sox and then move them. That scenario makes zero sense.