Look at Ray Ray Run

Robert's ft/second clocked in at 31.2 in the futures game to first base. Buxton averages 30.3 ft/second this year. They're close I imagine.

Thankful to who? Part of the commitment to rebuilding was the three tradable assets they had - it was one of the motivating factors. I'm not sure what your point is. No one alive was arguing they had a good farm system before the rebuild started.

What? For one given year you think more than 4-5 people will make significant impact?

Yeah, most teams turn their #10 ranked prospect into MLB superstars. The hilarious thing about being critical of this is that 2 of these guys are all-star caliber players lol. The 3rd looked great before TJ and the 4th is still in the big leagues showing flashes at times but lacking consistency.

I felt that way until his AAA promotion. You cant just let the guy hit 350 with tons of bombs and steals in AAA for the rest of the year. Can you?

The spark that Luis would have provided would have been a ton of fun. Hopefully soon!

So of course it doesnt include their actual prospects but you wanted to be critical just for the sake of being critical. Makes sense.

The way he was quenching his fist, this actually makes a ton of sense.

He could literally have TJ and be back to hitting for a full season like Ohtani. It hurt micker way more than it would hurt Eloy because Micker had a fucking 80 grade arm - devastating if that never comes back. I wanted to see a guy go right field to home at 100 MPH - Micker had the best arm in minor league baseball.

How though? Brunt force doesnt really lead to a muscle tear. I am guessing he hyperextended it and they are sending him back to Chicago to get an MRI and make sure he didnt tear anything in the process.

Ok

Sell high on a young controllable reliever with a 98 mph sinker?

How is it too late to get Greinke? How could Greinke ever classify as an inning eater? He's a top 10 pitcher in baseball who has shown the ability to pitch and succeed at 90 MPH.

Greinke is not going to cost "more than Rutherford" given his contract obligations and the DBacks current position.

I actually think Greinke would be the perfect add. He is one of the few pitchers alive that can be great throwing 89 mph and it's because his understanding of modern technology and it's implementation. Greinke knows how to pitch better than pretty much anyone alive and maybe he could teach young guys that.

It's literally 1000% percent more money so it is, in fact, much different.

So if no one offered him that he would have retired? Come on Jack, you're a smart guy. Your last paragraph is so wrong Jack idk what to tell you. So he was gonna hold out for two more years or sign a 1 year deal and expose himself to risk of injury or depleting skills... he was never worth more than he was worth this offseason. Hes not getting young. He wouldnt take a 1 year deal and push off free agency another year. That's nonsense. If I have a $10 bill and I want to sell it for change because I need change... of 32 people, 28 of them offer me 9.95 because they know I'm desperate. 2 guys offer me $10, one guy $11 because he really hates change and one guy offers $14 because he really hates change and hates $11 man. It wouldnt mean that $11 is no longer a competitive offer... it would simply mean someone was willing to pay even more than 99% of others thought it was worth. A competitive offer would be anything north of what the majority viewed its value as. I should have used the value of a home and not a $10 bill since player values fluctuate based on organization but I'm too lazy to retype it and you get the point.

Yes, and youd be incorrect when it comes to asset valuation. We're not talking about your opinion here jack. The market was set at 250 million, not 300 million. 300 million was the end price but that doesnt mean the only competitive offer was 300 million. In fact, it took competitive offers to push the ceiling north of what the industry viewed his value. In a blind bid process, the market value is set by the culmination of all bids not the peak bid.

So only one major league team offered a competitive offer to an elite talent? Seems like your definition of competitive doesnt equal the widely assessed market value of said asset.

I dont disagree but dont say they didnt make a competitive offer when they had the second best offer sheet on the table by a good bit. That offer, as an example, may have been signed by someone who had already player and worked with the organization. Machado had no season to sign it, but to someone who has roots down and the dollars could be more if things were done in good faith it may have been the best. The sox weren't outbid by the Dodgers, yankees or red Sox which seems to be the fear with robert for some reason.

I dont think you know what the term competitive means in a contract sense. They offered the second most guaranteed money and had escalators to give him the most. That is by definition a competitive offer. The padres off was "better" but it wasnt some well over market offer. Unless you think only one team makes competitive offers to free agents (the team that signs the player) then you're off base here.

Fair enough. I know it would be unprecedented but if this team is good and has good success together, I'd bet on the sox retaing more than less.

Machado wasnt their player and they had the second highest bid on the table. It wasn't exactly a non-competitive offer either.

Says who? Seriously. The Angels could afford trout with their shit contracts around him but the sox cant keep a star?

I think it would be disappointing that a team worth 1.2 billion dollars couldnt retain the best player on the planet? The sox can afford to keep everyone. Stop accepting their nonsensical spin.