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It makes zero sense to me. If they had signed Wheeler then mayyyyyyybe it makes sense then, but that's even a stretch.

They need another, maybe even 2.

He threw 140 innings last year, I'd think whatever limit he's on at this point would be unlikely to actually limit him.

Maybe not in this hypothetical

How? These teams are like 100x more valuable than they were 25 years ago, that's not some happy accident that fell on a bunch of hobbyists.

I don't think this has been true since like the seventies.

I don't give a shit about Jerry's money, if it were up to me he would have to give most of it up. But I'm not under any delusions that billionaires are suddenly going to stop operating their businesses like a business. So I want the FO to be smart with the dumb limits they have.

I mean yeah the pressure is on, but that comes with trying to be a competitive baseball team. Doesn't mean not converting on 100% of targets is an failure of epic proportions. If missing Machado didn't sink this thing (it didn't), I really don't think Wheeler will. The Wheeler reaction has been 90% Machado PTSD.

What's bothering me is that there doesn't seem to be any middle ground between a home run and a disaster off season. Last year was definitely an unmitigated disaster. But I find any offseason that includes Yaz can't be a bad one, and there's still going to be moves made.

If it's any consolation, the Twins still don't have any pitching.

If Bum is as expensive as there are reports of, he can pound all the sand in the world. But, he'd still be at least a 3-4 win improvement to the rotation and that's not nothing. Even still, target Ryu.

The Mets I assume

I have a hard time imagining it'd be for much more than ML minimum.

Idk why people are so anti-Ryu

Walk away dude

I’d have a beer with Lucas and mr. giolito

That's 17 million less than Jacob DeGrom was given 9 months ago, with all kinds of crazy deferments. Yes, I know it bought out a year of arb. Wheeler might not be getting ELITE dollars, but he's getting more than he's proven to be worth.

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Nightengale, if that's worthy

It is?

I understand that. But acting like Zack Wheeler is a no brainer at, idk, 150 is ridiculous. This sucks, but I'm not going to stomp my feet over it.

They offered him a 20 million dollars more than anyone thought he was going to get when the offseason started. Probably closer to 30.

You seem to be implying that there is no number that is not worth going to.

He pitched a billion innings

Yup, all over, pack it in.