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We can quibble all we want about whether Lance Lynn is proper value for dunning. ( I tend to think it’s pretty fair, anything more, your probably using him as a sweetener for a more attractive trade partner) but now was the time to move dunning.

My point is Dunning is likely at best going to be like a 1.5 to 2.5 win player for 2 or 3 years. Maybe he gets better. Maybe he doesn’t. Point is Sox believe there are better chances in their system to be better than that and want value now because they don’t have time to wait around for everyone. Also consider, that by the time he is pushing 180 innings constintently, if he gets there at all, he will also be pushing 30

Let’s say Dane dunning puts up 10 WAR in his 6 years, but they majority of it comes in year 4 and 5. Dane Dunning would also not have figured into the White Sox equation.

I will absolutely take 1 year of 4 WAR over 10 spread over 6.

Guys 2020 was a small sample where teams played freakishly unbalanced schedules, against an all time high number of debutees. Throw 2020 out.

You could probably find infinite cases of guys being half as good as someone much better than them over a 60 game stretch.

Gotta say, I take umbrage with team control so often being brought up regarding an almost complete unknown.

I’m fairly confident 2 of Kopech, Cease, Crochet, Kelley, Dalquist, Thompson, Steiver etc will be about as good as Dunning, one of those guys likely ending up significantly better. Which is why I’m not sweating losing dunning.

People are concerned, too much in my opinion, about 22, 23, 24 etc. which is fair.

Yeah, I just think huge swings like Moncada and Abreu should be taken with a grain of salt. And newcomers like Dunning were mostly just noise just strictly from a projection standpoint. There’s probably some merit in continued trends ie Anderson, Giolito and Lopez though.

This is true, but I think we’d all be better served throwing out 2020 analytically on some level for just about everyone.

It’s being severely undersold how fuckin old dunning is.

I’d marginally prefer Brantley, but that’s a damn good team.

You guys know dunning is older than Bieber right? Also Lance Lynn is good and Shields was not.

There’s nothing marginal about the improvement

You have 3 legit innings eaters and still a shit load of young arms. It’s a risky move but the sky is falling is a bit much.

There are a lot of solid young arms again.

Today I just learned Nancy invented the walk-up song via Dick Allen, which rules.

That's still a pretty deep top ten. Granted 5 of those guys are like a couple weeks from being pulled off the list, but still.

Really interested to hear what DJ is like without an old stalwart who dominated the broadcast, or a guy who never felt comfortable

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I agree

He won't. McCann is gone. I'm just saying I don't doubt the Sox would be interested in doing that if possible.

If it was a short one or two year deal, sure, I don't think that would really affect the Springer or Bauer situation all that much. You're also assuming a lot thinking they want to use money on those two.

I honestly don't doubt they wouldn't mind over paying him. But he's looking at a 4 year deal from the Mets apparently, that ain't gonna happen.