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He doesn’t owe anyone an explanation on why he doesn’t want to play. His teammates and boss maybe. Certainly not you or me. He said he’s not comfortable ramping up in a couple weeks, there’s zero reason not to leave it at that.

This thread is getting into some seriously weird territory. None of these guys opting out owe anyone shit

They're having all kinds of issues with getting results back though. The Cubs just cancelled camp today, and i'm not even sure the A's have started yet

I think the players bail at that point, is what I was getting at. Already a lot of rumblings of what the hell are we doing here, really? from players

Once someone gets really sick, and someone will, it’s over.

Well no, but it was lucky that it was the second test that was a false negative and not the first.

doesn’t bode well for anyone that this sort of thing is happening also

This is already a complete mess

That's probably curtains for Zimm, no?

Right, but you figure at some point, with positive tests, that rosters will look like a September roster and be talent will be pretty diluted.

it's more that i'm not okay with any of it and the handling of this entire thing should be a national embarrassment, and now it's gotten to the point where some people do need to go back to work to prevent total collapse, and some things do not need to resume.

The Nicky Delmonicos of the world have much more in common with any of us than they do with top end players.

The ability to evaluate performance is going to be close to zero no?

I cannot possibly imagine a team giving up something of value during this

Not even so much a question of legitmacy, just like there being no playoff atmosphere, no bars to watch games, no or limited watch parties, no parade etc. etc. Like the White Sox winning would just be a constant reminder that shit generally still really, really sucks, as opposed to being any kind of respite from it.

Definitely can’t imagine it being as meaningful if you’re team does win it though. I personally don’t see this even getting that far though.

Man, I just really don’t think this is worth it. We have pretty much zero idea what the long term effects of this is, and whether or not players will be the same after recovering. Because they aren’t going to get 60 games in.

Would still be pretty stunned if 60 games actually happened

Yup I’m all good, thanks.

we can argue economics all we want. The season is flat out not happening.

The playoffs are a crapshoot because baseball is naturally high variance, and a 7 game sample can’t be used to prove anything.

Idk about short term, this has turned into a proxy war for no reason.

Lol

Many, many, many Americans will interchange that word with, like, Stalinism.

Cool I’m safe