poppysox

I agree with your assessment of our needs (SP & RF) in addition to DH and RP. Simply don't believe in overpay to the same extent some of you would. I am not advocating cheep...just prudent. Giving up 300 million plus two quality players for one player is an astronomical drain on resources. Wheeler, Ryu, Grandal and Pederson would be my way to spend money.

That's how mega deals start. Sounds nuts until you hear about what you would be getting.

You can't have it both ways. Last year you pro Machado guys said his skillset and age were a rare once in a lifetime/generational opportunity to acquire Machado at the astronomical cost of 300 million. One team stepped up and paid the price. Less than one year later you guys find another generational player but this time your conclusion is he's worth 300 million plus two quality players. Thank God RH has a little more self control than some of you.

What kind of fool would give Betts the same money as Machado and throw in two quality players as well? That's who is spamming.

No...but Rodon and Sanchez would get it done.

Another thing to like about how the WS treat their own.

Exactly!

Thank you...I like you too. My point was not that I think we are getting both Cole & Wheeler. I was referring to the fluid nature of this offseason. If someone becomes available unexpectedly like Mike Trout we may need to take away resources from other areas. No... I don't expect that to happen nor do I really expect the Cole/Wheeler deals to both happen. Just try to hope the stars align and we get some pleasant surprises. I get it...some of you think nothing good can happen until JR is gone. I choose to disagree.

As you know...some posters like to knock others ideas without having any of their own.

Last offseason the Padres didn't have a seat at the table...until they did.

That's the point...neither of us know.

It's all fluid. If opportunity presents itself two sign Cole & Wheeler we might need a cheaper option in RF or DH. We will need to see the whole offseason unfold before judging.

Tsutsogo was posted this morning. Power hitter corner outfielder with suspect glove. Interesting to see if FO has interest. Maybe this eras Iguchi.

Many things will change between now and 2025. I refuse to believe we need to stay in the middle of the pack instead of top third in order to pay future extensions. Some of these young guns will be extended and some will be traded in exchange for future young guns. That's how the Braves and Cardinals do it.

The primary difference between us is I have been publicly stating my belief that our budget will be 160+. The vast majority of posters have suggest that 120 is their guess. Like a kid at Christmas...I'm dreaming of some really nice toys. Most of you are thinking one pretty nice toy and some underwear and a bathrobe. We shall see.

If WS sign Cole the second pitcher could be a Nova type... If we sign Wheeler than the second pitcher needs to be something like Ryu...If we sign Wheeler and Cole then becomes available you now have Lopez or someone else for trade ammo. I'm saying get pitching and don't worry about it. The better pitching you have the more ammo you have.

I agree. Joc appears to be the safe bet.

Didn't hurt Harper.

Nothing is guaranteed but I hope you are wrong.

Some trades plural...interesting.

I don't believe we or any other team is not interested in TOR guys. It is totally about what we are willing to pay VS others. There is nothing wrong with having a max budget and not going higher. Trout would appeal to anyone but half a billion would have been higher than my risk tolerance. I think most on here will be pleasantly surprised with what we get and what JR is willing to spend. We might even get in on some players that are bargains that weren't expected. Budget and salary constraints will leave some good players available.

Option 2.

He must be dumb as a doorknob.

I have to admit...that list is gruesome.

What...No Cole?