poppysox

I know that whole story. The point is Jerry does listen to advisors as he did in the LaRussa case. The story you are addressing doesn't say Jerry now goes it alone.

The heart loves who the heart loves and hates who the heart hates.

I think it's really something how Rick Hahn is made out to be a dullard by some on this forum. He is a Harvard grad with agent experience. He has done some great things like extending Sale, Q & Eaton and then turning those players into a gold mine of talent. IMO we could do a lot worse than RH. Now Kenny is another story.

Mid tier talent is what we need. Two mid tier starters and a Dye type right fielder. We have elite covered pretty well...and really need some playing time together as Robert, Madrigal, Cease and Kopech adjust to the league and recuperation. Note: I'm not saying elite players wouldn't be ideal.

You could do a lot worse than Avi 2017 model. Doesn't cover quite the ground I like but great arm.

Not worried about Madrigal. Need Right Fielder and two decent starters. Good to go.

I don't think anyone is going to confuse Moncada with Rios.

I agree. The horse has left the barn on Keuchel.

I agree. Ricky should try the use of a relief starter...than go to Lopez. New age thinking so don't expect to see it.

He will also need to catch and throw the ball. Can't have two Eloy's in any outfield.

Players starting to realize that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. I think Trout set a nice example of signing a "fair" contract rather than selling himself to the highest bidder.

Avi would have been the poster boy for maximum utilization of minimal resources (getting the most for your money).

Guys who make a pitcher use 7 & 8 pitches help get into an opponents bullpen are valuable. Madrigal hits behind the runner and takes a pitcher out of his routine when he is on base. We will have an interesting mix of speed and power. I like how most of our power guys are not Konerko on the bases.

Power hitter who could hit for average and had a cannon for an arm. His downfall was being on DL while getting more expensive. I like Avi and we still need a guy similar to him.

Just the kind of return we need. For once we are in the drivers seat. Colome is a top grade closer and those come in limited supply. I hope that nothing lures RH into some team pulling a Bummer/Colome combo. I really want Bummer on the Sox for a long time.

On a bright note...Covey has had 3 respectable starts in a row.

Can't disagree.

I'm a glass half full guy...you not so much.

Madrigal promoted to AA today and has been doing very well from what I read. Even has 2 unexpected HR's. His A+ league #'s in 49 games .272 BA with 6 strike outs in 289 at bats. 17 stolen bases looks pretty good. Most people would give him a pretty good chance to be next years opening day 2nd baseman. I like Yolmer as much as anyone but... he's no Madrigal.

I personally watched each and every one of these players and am personally a huge fan of Aparico, Landis and Peters. They were some of my favorite players. Most fans on this site would scoff at those batting averages and home run totals. It was a different time when a slick fielding base stealer could be consider a star. Every time I bring up Madrigal who has those same qualities...I'm criticized by half the forum. Many of the other people listed as old time greats did come up in the Sox organization but played little or never with the Sox. It's great to use McLain as an example but he never pitched for the White Sox in a single game. We all toss the "statistics" around to make point. My only point is that we will be very good very soon. We had great players in the past and we have some more coming now. If you don't really see it that way...I don't know why you spend so much time on this board.

Your semantics argument about the meaning of find is not worthy of further comment other than to say you argue for arguments sake.

Our major trades have been great as far as I'm concerned. I don't have as much patience as I should. I want to see the team with all the parts functioning. It has the potential to be the best team any of us has seen. Just a few pieces away now.

I guess no ones perfect.

Jerry let Hawk fire Tony Larussa even though Jerry was very close to Tony and still is. I believe JR will listen to what KW & RH advise. I think it might be KW who actually likes yes men.

Beard is a Great pick from what little I know. I love speedy guys. The great ones can run you out of the park.