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How in the world has GRF cost the state $200 million over the last 14 years? It didn't even cost that much to build in the first place.

It also seems completely impossible physically.

That promise was made by Governor Thompson. JR didn't have the authority to get involved in eminent domain issues or offer state owned land to the family that owned the bar. They were offered the opportunity to relocated to a vacant dumpy bar a few blocks away and declined.

Please provide a link to where it was announced that the Sox won't be available via streaming or other services next season. It will be, these things take time to negotiate. It has happened on every teams' changes over the years. What hasn't happened with other teams' changes is the ability to watch OTA while the negotiations take place. Usually fans just get blacked out for a while if they don't have the right services.

I know times have changed, but its kind of funny that Sox fans, some of whom are still bitching and whining that the Sox moved from free over the air to pay tv 40+ years ago are now bitching and moaning that they are going to be available over the air free again.

My recollection is that the Marquee rollout had very limited carriage at first, and it didn't really get resolved until games were scheduled to be aired. At least this has some option to actually watch the games if your streaming/cable option isn't negotiated yet. I think the Dodgers had this issue for a couple of years. So this couuld be a long term issue.

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For me it's not really the money, it's the time investment. Between driving to the park, back home and the game itself its 4 or 5 hours to watch non competitive boring baseball. Lower ticket prices don't fix that. There are usually 9 or 10 games on MLB TV that are more interesting without the time commitment.

I think the reality is that most Sox fans never heard Harry when he was still sharp, during his St Louis and White Sox days. I'd even include his first 5 or 6 years with the Cubs. After that he became a caricature of himself, the goofy drunk uncle that comedians imitated. Harry and Jimmy would never get a job nowadays on any MLB team. Tough assignment for Schriffen to have to announce this team his first year, but he just doesn't seem to have it anyway. I don't feel like Hawk was honest with us 95% of the time either.

I'd support it even if ISIS financed it.

And to further the point- MLB relies on the ability to extort hundreds of millions of dollars from government whenever they want a new stadium. Not just the Sox, almost every team in MLB has played this game and will play it again. If they reward the cities that don't give in to the extortion with an expansion team and retaining the name as if nothing ever happened they lose their most powerful leverage in future negotiations with other teams and cities. If the Sox are gone, they are gone, and Chicago is a one team town.

The Bud Light boycott is a different animal. I like beer, and it's as simple as grabbing a pack of Miller Lite or Coors Light instead if I choose to boycott Bud Light. Still get to drink beer. No additional cost or effort involved. I like to go to baseball games. If I boycott the Sox I would need to go to Cubs or Brewers games, both much more inconvenient and expensive. As annoyed as I am at JR I am not going to let him take away something I really enjoy.

Bring back Don Kessinger. He is the oldest living former Sox manager.

Navy Pier draws 9 million visitors, so its not out of the question that a well done entertainment district could draw 5 with a guaranteed 2 million at least for baseball.

Pecota had the Sox at 78 wins last year.