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Madrigal > Vargas Madrigal is a better fielder, better hitter, and has more energy, = more time on DL, but I'd still take him over Vargas

Thanks I just looked it up myself because after thinking about it, there's no way JR was paying 25 million. I should have checked before responding.

That makes no sense, you're proposing it's ok to give Bummer 25 million as a reliever for a team going nowhere? How was AaronBummer going to be worth 25 mil on a team that set the MLB record for losing? EDIT: Sorry, I should have checked before responding.

He probably already spent a ton of money on his music video's, lifestyle, and singing career, he'll be motivated$$$$$$

He can when he's motivated as he proved in the World Baseball classic playing for Cuba. He also put it together enough with the Sox to convince them to sign him to the contract he never lived up to. I blame Moncada for not being motivated once given the contract. Too many of his AB's looked like he didn't really care as he just watched strike 3 go by again and again. I also blame the Sox manger(s) who couldn't figure out how to light a fire under his ass. Players play for Managers they respect and that never happened with TLR or Pedro. Ricky got him to play and he always flashed the glove, until he became distracted or disinterested. Good riddance, but I'm sure he'll turn into an All-Star if he lands on the right team with a good Manager.

If they had him figured out why did Getz trade a high leverage closer for Vargas? That goes without mentioning the other two players he gave up. Certainly Kopech had more potential as a closer than Vargas does of showing anything resembling what we gave up to get him. Vargas doesn't even have a position.....is he a 3B, OF, SS, or just a utility player? I'd also like you to show me Kopechs last 10 appearances with the Sox, did he hold runners on base like he did in LA giving up zero SB's.

2024 stats of pitchers the Sox gave up on or traded which would make a formidable rotation on any team including the record breaking 2024 Chicago White Sox. Chris Sale - 6.2 WAR, 18-3, 2.38 ERA, 1.01 WHIP Carols Rodon - 1.9 WAR, 16-9, 3.96 ERA,1.223 WHIP Renaldo Lopez - 5.1 WAR 8-5, 1.99 ERA, 1.10 WHIP Erik Fedde - 5.6 WAR, 9-9, 3.30 ERA, 1.16 WHIP Michael Kopech White Sox 2-8, 4.74 ERA, 1.35 WHIP Michael Kopeck LA Dodgers 4-0, 1.13 ERA, 0.792 WHIP Not only have we needed a new G.M (KW-Hahn, Getz) for some time, we also need a new pitching coach! Katz couldn't figure out Renaldo or Kopech and all it took was a coach that knows what they're doing. Katz didn't do anything for Crochet, Crochet did it on his own by declaring himself a starter in Spring Training which the Sox were skeptical about. The Sox ruined him and his arm when they pitched him in the playoffs against the A's because they were all fooled by the radar gun he was hitting. They didn't care about the damage he was doing to his arm, a pitcher straight out of college thrown into high leverage playoff games. He took time off to recover and convinced the Sox he was a starter not a reliever and we all saw what he did when given the role he was accustomed to. Sox have a tendency to play players out of position (Vaughn-Sheets) and regress their careers instead of developing them the right way.

86-76 and a playoff berth and actually winning the wildcard against Houston in Houston is different than mired in mediocrity. They also were up 2-1 against Cleveland with all their wins coming on the road before losing in 5 games. Are you saying A.J. Hinch wouldn't have made a difference had we not chosen TLR over Hinch? Show the South Side a winner and they will come to the ballpark in 2006 they drew 2,957,414 https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/attend.shtml

So sad to see the BlackHawks follow JR's new sports network. What a flop, all the exposure and advertising dollars lost because JR thought it would be a good idea to put it on free TV thinking he would still get Comcast, YouTube and others to pay up when people can buy a $20 antenna. Not that I'm going to buy spend $20 on one, at least not until the teams start winning.

I didn't want him at the time because of my disdain for Houston but Hahn was right about A.J. Hinch. Had he become our manager instead of TLR we most likely would have never set the MLB record for futility and been in the position were in now.

1981 when they signed Carton Fisk and Greg Luzinski

Agree, The Sox messed up Vaughn by bringing him up early when Jose was still our 1B, then moved him to multiple positions he had never played since little league. The Sox braintrust decided it was a good idea to put the slowest person on the team in RF so he can humiliate himself and lose any confidence he may have had with his bat. He should have been in the minors as long as Jose was still on the team.

Again, there's BIG difference between picking #1 multiple years in a row instead of picking 10th. Picking #1 and selecting the best player in the country is usually not a risk. Hell we picked Vaughn at #3 and how has that worked, decent player but no All Star that's for sure.

He had to be senile if he didn't realize Mark McGuire was cheating the game he professes to respect. He turned a blind eye on the steroid era and his player because he was all about winning instead of respecting the game. Tony two-face should have been a politician.

One difference, Houston and Baltimore were rewarded with high draft choices and multiple #1 picks, we set the all time MLB record for futility and are rewarded with the #10 pick under the new rules. BIG difference. Can nothing go right for this organization?