KipWellsFan

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jul 10, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) When my boogers dry up, I rip them out and with it comes tons of nose hair. Then I flick the whole clump out my car window. Me too!

Hmmm, going to have to look into it.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 8, 2009 -> 08:58 AM) Go green! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_...ens_wind_energy Now if this were so promising, why would he cancel it? He says they got off the blocks too quick, but I call BS on that one, and furthermore, he's seen what's in the Cap and Trade (Tax and Kill) bill. It's all a big redistribution of wealth boondoggle. PERIOD. But it's a "job creator". Uh huh, so how many millions of jobs are we going to kill to create a fraction of the green jobs? Tax and kill? That's just silly Kap. Cap and trade so far has not really worked at cutting greenhouse gas emissions. But these s***ty plans certainly haven't had much negative effect on economies.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 11:28 AM) Which is of course why I'm hopeful that even the weak version of a cap and trade bill the House just passed will be more effective than anyone thinks. Turn the market loose, make the costs of coal fired electricity and oil fired automobiles something the customer has to bear more directly, give it a few years, and I think we'll be shocked at how rapid and effective the changes are. Important global effect too. "Whoa, America's actually doing something now? I guess we have to now..."

If the incumbent is relatively popular after 4 years does this historically scare off the top contenders from the other party? Or not really?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 12:21 PM) I'll use as much freaking energy as I freaking please. It's my money, and I'll be damned if the government tells me what the hell I should do with. If I want a gas guzzling SUV, I'm getting me one. Cause you know what, I'd prefer to have a lot of steel between me and all the idiots on the road. And if I want to go with the safer incandescent light bulbs because I don't want the mercury possibly effecting my home and family, guess what, I'll use the incandescent light bulbs. And if I want to the AC to be on all summer, guess what, I'm gonna have the AC on all summer. Cause you know why, it's my money and my freedom. Go save all the trees you want, nobody is telling me what to do with my money. Just cause you feel like it's your responsibility to be greener doesn't mean it's mine and everyone else's. Well on your deathbed you'll have to deal with that I guess.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 3, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) I love the argument that it won't change my life anytime soon.... Guess what, I'm 18 and plan on being around for a lot longer. It's gonna affect me and everyone else at some point. I guess if your 92 years old or have a death wise, you really don't have to worry about this stuff, but because it might not effect me in the short term doesn't really please me all that much. In fact, I know my life won't change in the short term. It's the long term that's got me worried. Enormous amounts of debt, hyper-inflation looming if we don't stop printing money, bills that do nothing but tax me, government telling me what type of car to buy and what type of medical treatment I do and don't need, etc... It all adds for a very rough time for everyone. I don't know about all that other crap but it's certainly not beyond the bounds of personal responsibility for an individual to greatly reduce their energy use. Period.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 3, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) That's laughable dude. So he LIED about that? LMAO. Please. Google the San Fransisco Chronicle interview from January 17, 2008 - the one about him going to bankrupt the coal industry. It's in there. That interview is not the issue here. Do you really think your electricity prices are going to skyrocket because of a weak and perhaps ineffectual bill? If anything these types of bills tend to at first implement an a easy to achieve cap and make it stronger and stronger over time (in years). Hence, you've got all the time in the world to get your act together, and will only have yourself to blame if you suffer. Oh, and about those home audits. http://www.housingwire.com/2009/06/30/home...and-trade-bill/

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 3, 2009 -> 12:33 PM) Barackus the Great told us - HIS WORDS. It's not a "PARTISAN ATTACK PIECE". "...uhhh, you know, under my plan, uh, of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." - Barackus the Great on the campaign trail. So, is he partisan attacking his own plan? From the bill amendments: Now sure, it doesn't EXPLICITLY say that, but if it doesn't meet the "energy requirements" that are set, a person will not sell their home. I'm just saying it will be used as a partisan attack piece. You of all people should recognize that what Obama said during the election campaign may not become reality once he became President. Can you provide link for that quote too?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 3, 2009 -> 11:41 AM) Yeah, they like to ball it up together. Pfff, have they ever even played?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 08:31 PM) It's amazing how much people go out of their way to find documents/websites/blogs that justify everything Barackus the Great and his Democrat buddies do, and how much people go out of their way to make anything GOP related look like they're evil incarnate/wrong or whatever on damn near any issue. It's amazing how far some people go to try and prove their ridiculous claim that all politicians are the same. Is Kevin Johnson really Obama's buddy anyways?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 10:46 PM) <!--quoteo(post=1933546:date=Jun 29, 2009 -> 07:42 PM:name=KipWellsFan)-->QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 07:42 PM) <!--quotec-->Your quality of life probably won't be affected anyways by this weak bill. That will probably be the case for 99% of the American population. Some of the house members apparently voted against because it wasn't strong ENOUGH. I think it's pretty clear a large chunk of the Republicans in the house have zero interest in making the best legislation possible. Sometimes politics is about power, and unfortunately for some, those who give half a s*** about climate hold a very large chunk of it right now. Democrats and Obama were pretty clear on their environmental position in recent election campaigns and I think it would be a betrayal to pass anything weaker than this now. Don't forget about how you now also have to meet government qualifications if you want to sell your home. That means is your house isn't green enough, you have to pay to get all that stuff taken care of before you can sell... YAY!!!! No way your electricity bill will skyrocket. Maybe over 50 years but not at all in the short term. But that video will be a great partisan attack piece to use. And I would really like to see where in the House bill it says that you could be stopped from selling your home. The bill hasn't even passed anyway. Oh, and lol about those lights. I've got them in every room in my house and they last bloody forever.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 07:09 PM) climate change or man-made climate change? I believe man has an effect on everything and our very existence is gonna impact the climate in some way. However, as of now, I do not buy the theory that this current climate change is mainly man's fault. There's just no definitive proof that man is the main reason for this climate change. And any bills passed regarding this issue should wait until after more research, more debates, and more ideas are put together. How can anyone doubt that this cap and trade bill is nothing but a tax that's being shoved down our throats? I got no problem with wanting to cut down pollution, find new energy resources, etc. But we gotta be smart about this. We can't have which ever party that is in charge go, "nuh uh, we're right, you're wrong, end of discussion." It's like the politicians are using playground rules to determine our futures. I guess you didn't read that academic article I posted. It argues that scientific debate isn't going to clear up this issue any further. The only actual thing that will do anything to "solve" this issue will be definitive political action (for or against). If anything, more scientific information will just provide outliers even more information from which to cherry pick and allow them to argue whatever their extreme position. Again I'd encourage you to go back and read it. http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/publicat...rsies_worse.pdf And I would argue that this bill isn't even close to being strong enough. It should be a much larger tax and it should be applied at all sources of pollution, hence a carbon tax. It does not cost enough for individuals and businesses to do the polluting they're doing, period. And no the bill is not being shoved down your throats. Your elected representatives have passed it in part. Your quality of life probably won't be affected anyways by this weak bill. That will probably be the case for 99% of the American population. And seriously do I really have to spend time feeling sorry for people in the coal industry. Like duh... you didn't think that one day someone might realize that is a fugged up industry. Some of the house members apparently voted against because it wasn't strong ENOUGH. I think it's pretty clear a large chunk of the Republicans in the house have zero interest in making the best legislation possible. Sometimes politics is about power, and unfortunately for some, those who give half a s*** about climate hold a very large chunk of it right now. Democrats and Obama were pretty clear on their environmental position in recent election campaigns and I think it would be a betrayal to pass anything weaker than this now.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 01:44 PM) There's plenty of people who still call it a myth or a hoax. Pat Buchanan just called it a hoax. And something to the effect that its real purpose is to transfer wealth from the private sector to government and to create world government. Say what you will about climate change but I do think the scientists, advocates, bureaucrats and politicians for the most part are doing what they think is right and do not have particularly devious goals. I'd hope the same were true for the contrarians and Republican critics as well.

I thought it would be kind of lousy since I hadn't heard about it since I saw the trailer, but I saw Nothing but the Truth starring Kate Beckinsale and it was actually quite good. It follows a Valerie Plame-like story. Acting's great, pretty taut stuff.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 27, 2009 -> 12:40 PM) Let me clarify, because it's been lost in translation. I don't care to prove it right or wrong, I'm not an expert in the field and I have no agenda on either side of the discussion. I'd like them to continue researching it, study it over a span of years and come up with some well thought (and politically disconnected) recommendations based on data from BOTH sides, and I'd like it done objectively, as all scientific research should be done. I see a lot of hidden agenda on this specific subject, and I'd like them to toss that, and rather than studying it from one side or the other, to study it from the middle. My big issue/problem with this is that the government is shoving things like this climate bill through without knowing one way or the other. As it stands, they're guessing, based on politically charged science. The fact that debate still exists is what I have a problem with -- meanwhile we're taking drastic steps that may or may do absolutely nothing, and at what cost to the country, to the people, and to business? That's my issue with this. I know I tend to come of as bullheaded when it comes to things like this, but politics really annoys me...I try to be objective, but when I see things like this happening, I have a problem with it. I've always been a devils advocate of sorts. If the bill was really that solid, then Obama and his administration shouldn't have had to make phone calls and convince people to vote for it -- well written bills based on fact should need no push to get it signed...it should just happen. You absolutely have to read this academic article. Completely relevant to your discussion here. It's PDF http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/publicat...rsies_worse.pdf

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 18, 2009 -> 03:52 PM) I won't f***ing forget what you did today, Ozzie. Oh lord, would you relax. Ozzie has been great for this team.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 07:17 PM) Why is no one reporting this: http://www.infowars.com/service-inspector-...-kevin-johnson/ Maybe because Alex Jones is bats*** crazy.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 10:37 PM) the guy told a joke about rapign a 14 year old. is this what it's come to? Unintentionally, he meant to be talking about Bristol who's apparently of legal age. And as far as I know he said nothing about raping anyone. He said knocked up. It was a joke, and compared to some of the stuff out there, very tame. Ever listened to a real comedian, uncensored? NSFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnKTs6CXwQ

David Letterman is a comedian. Sometimes a mildly raunchy one. f*** Palin.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2009 -> 10:17 PM) So are you just not going to use Jenks tonight then? I just hate losing yesterday's game and possibly tonight's with Jenks and Thornton sitting while Linebrink throws 93 mph fastballs down the plate. Yah, we're all upset. But this isn't any kind of terrible move by Guillen. Just played the wrong card is all.

I can't believe it just crossed my mind to pick up Podsednik for my fantasy team. I'd like some more steals and Willy Taveras is hurt, and Nyger Morgan his replacement has struggled. No way Podsednik can keep this up.

Yah, Drudge's tilts are kind of annoying sometimes. He's always obsessing over the latest climate change skepticism. But I still visit everyday. Huffington Post's news pages are a decent balance against drudge.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 6, 2009 -> 10:27 AM) Ok, the MSM has now declared that flip-flopping is OK, because the Messiah is doing it, for our own good. Just check out the headline! Too funny. http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnews/20090604/ts...orthepublicgood That article sucks.

Tim Kaine, Barack Obama, Mark Warner