KipWellsFan

W/O looking I bet Cheney is the big donor, and Obama is the chincy donor. EDIT: Yup, but I had already heard about the Obama thing today, and remember the stories about Cheney from the past.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 05:49 PM) Well again you bring so much to the discussion. Since you cant find it in a google search. Why not ask another supporter if its true..? You're the one asserting that. Give me a source.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 04:01 PM) Not sure of what to make of this vague conversation involving Harry Reid: While I don't rule out for a second Obama winning this thing on his own, Reid might be talking about a superdelegate convention. Where the superdelegates vote before the convention, so the winner is known in advance.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 25, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) no one has yet to explain to me why this outlandish story about Sinclair and Obama has been buried, but an even more outlandish story about McCain and a "platonic" relationship with a lobbyist was front page news. There is no question that both of these stories should have been buried, but if McCain's was front page, why wasn't this Sinclair crap front page? Because I could sign up for youtube tommorow and say that Obama nailed me. And I'm not going to defend the Times article against McCain, other than to say acutal politicos apparently close to McCain blabbed to the media about being uncomfortable with McCain's closeness to a lobbyist.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 24, 2008 -> 09:44 PM) He was also named godfather to those children. Another fact. I don't think that's actually a fact. At least I couldn't find anything in a basic google search. I refuse to believe that if Michelle or Barack were to come up to me to shake my hand, they'd think less or more of me because of my skin color.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Who are you to think that your opinion means more than anyone elses. I think I'm right and you're wrong and until you're able to explain why Michelle Obama is a racist that's what I'll think. I might let you get away with calling Michelle naive, hypocritical, or bitter but sometimes, whether it's an opinion or not, it's wrong and I can't help but point it out.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Mar 24, 2008 -> 04:15 PM) I have no faith in the general public to catch onto anything ever. Gallup says about 20% less Americans think Clinton is as honest and trustworthy as Obama and McCain. http://www.gallup.com/poll/105097/Perceive...ama-McCain.aspx

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 24, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) Since its apparent that nobody will acknowledge the possibility of AA unless it is written in finite I will state why I think she is racist contingent on this being true, which I strongly believe it is. IMO, AA is a form of racism in its own degree and if it is used then it doesnt only affect the beneficiary. That would mean someone more qualified was turned down because of the color of their skin and missed out on going to Princeton. Then she writes about having a chip on her shoulder and that people treated her differently because of the color of her skin and she is making it sound like she is some kind of victim of racism even though the ONLY victim of racism in that case is the student that got denied entry to the university. So in this country that she has never been proud of until recently gave her an advantage with her education and instead of being grateful she acts like she was entitled to something. I also hold her to the same criticism I do Barrack in terms of choosing their church and continuing to support such an open racist. I think you'd be better of reserving the term racist for those who really deserve it. Race itself is a social construct and doesn't really mean anything. I highly doubt that either of the Obamas think that people of this or that race have inherent qualities from birth that make them lesser, or better.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 23, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) Are you seriously gonna try to twist what I said like that? "theyre all racists?" Give me a break. I said his wife is racist, his Pastor is racist and when he calls someone a typical white person he shows a glimpse of him being racist. Were not talking about a talk show host or an activist. This is a candidate to be the president of the country I live in and all of a sudden my concerns with things that the candidate said regarding race Im "concluding" something? Since Ive drawn some sort of inaccurate conclusion according to you, do you not think his pastor is racist? Were his comments about his grandmother being a "typical white person" not inappropriate and uncalled for? Also, since all of a sudden Im making up the fact that his wife got into college because of affirmative action, lets say for arguments sake she did, then you dont have a problem with her comments about being proud of her country for the first time? I just think you should be careful tossing around the word racist.

Some of those are so true for me. Especially the one about The Wire, and hating spoilers.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 23, 2008 -> 12:52 PM) Are you serious? You think Im making that up? He even acknowledged it in his speech. Do you have proof that Michelle Obama got into Princeton over more accomplished students because of the color of her skin?

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 23, 2008 -> 11:59 AM) She got into a college ahead of someone who was more qualified BECAUSE of the color of her skin Do you have any evidence of this?

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 22, 2008 -> 08:44 AM) Rumor had it a few weeks ago that a few weeks ago he was going to endorse Clinton. Well, as you can see, nothing happened. So, i think it's in the air. He has a contradiction. Some of his message overlaps with Clinton, some with Obama. An article at politico suggest he won't endorse anyone, but seems to hint that he may prefer Clinton. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9162.html I don't really trust Edwards' political instincts so I don't have a clue what he'll do. I certainly don't buy him as a "party elder", but that's me. p.s. Tony McPeak should shut up already.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 08:40 PM) Yellowcard. One more inflammatory post, and this is closed. I guess calling Michelle Obama a racist, and saying Barack was proud to have the support of the black panthers wasn't enough.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 06:40 PM) DAMN YOU JOHN MCCAIN (shakes fist in anger)!!! Oh, I think I get what you're doing now. Pointlessly s***-disturbing. All I needed was a few more examples of senseless posts to catch on.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 06:33 PM) Oh yes, of course. There have been no accusations that the state department lies and people die, bla bla. What are you talking about? why would anyone be fired under the rule of a supposed fascist dictator like G W Bush? Yah, still have no clue what you're talking about.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) But I thought the state department was just a pawn of the fascist Bush regime? Wouldn't they cover for any wrong doing? What the hell are you talking about?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 02:54 PM) Latest national polls (the 2 tracking polls are through 3/19 - yours was from 3/18)... _____________Clinton___Obama Gallup 3-day.......48%.........43% Rasm. 3-day.......43%.........46% CBS 3/18...........43%.........46% CNN 3/16...........45%.........52% USAT 3/16..........42%.........49% On average, Obama leading by about 3 points. What's interesting are the trends. Clinton went up after OH/TX, then back down and Obama took a lead. Then lately, after the Wright stuff, Clinton has surged back, though not taken a net lead. It will be interesting to see the tracking polls in another day or two, after all 3 days are post-Obama-speech. Yah the Wright story was a huge hit on Obama, but I imagine his speech was his best possible response. Now he's got to hope it dies down, and that the speech won over some Democrats.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 06:26 PM) The man is surrounded by racists, including his wife, and that reflects upon him no matter how he tries to spin it. Wow, I'm surprised the rest of the gang let you get away with this one. Michelle Obama is a racist now? And who are these other racists that surround him? I guess you're asserting that Wright is a racist? Any others? Ted Kennedy, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, David Axelrod, Harold Ford Jr?

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) ABC News Political Blog UH OH!!! I'm not debating the strategic implications of the whole NAFTA issue but eventually people are going to have to realize that NAFTA is not the source of all of America's problems.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) Wow. That's gutsy. I wonder how long it will take for Quebec to start up their cries for independence? Well there are always calls for independence in Quebec. But I'd argue this is not a huge deal because the situation in Quebec mirrors that of Kosovo very little. Plus the separatist movement in Quebec has been on the wane for a few years now. A federalist (pro-unity) party has been in power since 2003, and the separatist party has backed away from holding a referendum if they return to power.

Canada to recognize Kosovo independence, Serbia recalling ambassador Full Story http://www.macleans.ca/canada/wire/article...ontent=n031869A I think Canada will be one of the first, if not, the first, country with a full-fledged, legitimate separatist movement of their own to recognize Kosovo

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 01:27 PM) Maybe I should be a politician. Man, what is it? I'm agreeing with all you 'libs' today... Seriously, all junk aside that we banter back and forth, most of us aren't that far apart on main issues that confront us. None of us here on this forum (at least I'd like to hope) aren't racist, and really, are looking out for what's best for America (Canada, in your case, Kip). Or hell, throw out the nationality. We're looking for what's best for people. That's all that matters. So we disagree on how we get there sometimes... but I wouldn't want anyone here to be any less successful then I am, in fact, I wish everyone could be at least or more successful. You know why? Because we're all better for it. Ok, I'm done being all sappy. Back to the snarky Kaperbole. Easy there Obama...

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 11:03 AM) For me personally we all have equal opportunity to succeed. Why do African-Americans who live in inner cities rise to the top of their respected professions, when they could just as easily end up in jail? Because someone was there to mentor them. Because someone was there to help them understand that is the American dream, not because some white guy who doesn't know them or their plight are going to keep them right in that socio-economic class. I have friends that are Mexican-American, African-American, Phillopeano-American (spelling), whatever. And they are very successful people. They didn't let the crap that gets spewed about the great white satans knocking them back exist in their minds. It's sad to me that people get brainwashed into thinking they can't be successful. You have to teach kids that they can do what they want and be successful. You have to reward them for successes and through discipline build them up from failures. Race has nothing to do with that. Now, when you have a "high roller" preacher up there saying the things he is, #1 of course he's opening himself up for video clips like this. I know better and realize that he doesn't say this stuff all the time, but he wants people to buy into this stuff because it helps him "rule the roost" so to speak. #2, it's all about selling something to people to get them to continue to buy into something that feeds a process. In this case, it's that white people want to keep African-Americans "down". That's poppycock for those that have half a brain. I realize that there are racists among us, but I hope that people like me and most of you out there will overcome that by simply looking at people for what they are... human beings, without any differentiation other then heritage and culture. And I think that's essentially what Obama says in the speech and has always said. The two of you don't really disagree. I'm also impressed that he didn't completely throw Wright under the bus, and I think I overreacted to the issue personally. While I liked the speech I hope it has a positive effect on his campaign, and I'm not sure if it will. *fingers crossed

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 02:33 PM) I just think its not accurate to call a candidate we dont know of high quality. Not to mention the Rezco stuff. Im not saying he is any worse than any other candidate. IMO theyre all criminals, but he is far from the saint he tries to come across as. Well from all I know about Obama I feel comfortable with my assessment.