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QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 01:23 PM) I think youre last sentence is the problem. We dont know enough about them to label them "high quality." Look at Michelles thesis in college and that gives you an idea of what kind of substance were dealing with. I haven't read the 96 page thesis and I doubt I will but there's nothing offensive from it quoted in the politico article. I have no idea what it's like to be a black person in America, and don't see how exploring the issue as a college student is indicative in any way of the character or substance of an individual. The Obama campaign has done so well at becoming the candidate for President that happens to be black, and not the black candidate, and I think that is genuinely how Barack feels. That's why this story is so disturbing, and harmful to the campaign.

Chickens really coming home to roost on this one. And just another in an endlessly long list of reasons why I don't trust churches, religion, or the obsessively religious. I have no idea why people like Michelle and Barack, of such a high quality, would go to a church like this. It's maddening.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Tex, makes you wonder... why would they stop? Seems to help Hillary. Is this still going to mean Obama got the most delegates overall?

QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 06:05 PM) Well... Ferraro quits. Ferraro was seriously deluded and naive.

I don't know if Ferraro is racist, but if she really believes what she's saying and doesn't have some angle in all this, she's just dumb. As for whether Clinton should back out. I assume she's hoping she wins Pennsylvania and then a couple more states creating momentum, and then she gets a shot at Florida and Michigan again, and then pledged delegates aren't so pledged anymore, and then the superdelegates will have her back...

Nice rout.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) no, those poll numbers are for his health care plan. Kap posted in the past day or two that Hispanics are still supporting Clinton in a big way in Texas, and I posted that Obama won areas with sizable Black populations. Anyone that has been reading for more than a month should know that neither Kap or I are racist. It is a damn shame when someone can point to something like this, comment in it, and then be called a racist. And the obvious retort is that Clinton is doing really well with women, so that cuts both ways. And there are a lot of white males voting for McCain. Duh The majority of people are most comfortable with people who look, talk, and act like they do. That is a huge edge in any popularity contest. And people are not studying the issues and carefully coming to a conclusion. The problem is that Ferraro seemed to say that Obama is where he is because he's black. I would say he's doing so well because he's a great candidate, and I don't know how Obama being black helped him win in Iowa, or Idaho, etc. I think Clinton's quip that her and McCain are more experienced than Obama is coming back to bite her a bit too. Pelosi laid a nice smackdown today.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 6, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) A lot of people are saying the math is against Hillary, so I did the math... Assuming Obama wins Wyoming and Mississippi in the next week by a 60-40 margin, Hillary would need to win 65% of the remaining delegates to take the pledged delegate lead. That's beating Obama by 30 points in EVERY STATE from now till June. In fact, if you facotr in how delegates are awarded, she'd probably have to win by MORE than 30 points in every state. I'm not willing to assume that Obama is going to win by that much in Wyoming and Mississippi, but I tend to agree with your assessment of the math. Of course the psychological impact is also important, or at least that's what the pundits tell me.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2008 -> 08:23 AM) That is just awesome. When Hillary talks about another Bush term in office, she must be talking about if she gets elected. She would absolutely start a 5th term consecutive of lies, deceit and corruption, in the Presidency, because she is already doing it in her campaign! Argh, too bad neither the media nor Obama have gone after her on it yet.

Funny moment on Colbert tonight. Former Secretary of Labor under Clinton, Robert Reich, says he prefers chocolate bunnies (Obama), over marshmallow chicks (Clinton).

Already the top story on Talking Points Memo http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 10:22 PM) I'm even more shocked that the Clintons would use something their campaign was also doing as a way of making the opposing campaign look bad. I'm e-mailing that story to every prominent american news agglomerator or blog I can think of.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 10:12 PM) Whoa. That's kind of an important mistake. For once I'll agree with that song... "Blame Canada!"

Original NAFTA leak was about Hillary Clinton's assuring of Canada, NOT OBAMA! Full Story http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 09:39 PM) I actually did the math wrong, Clinton gained about 10 delegates overall on Tuesday. Obama won Texas, but you are right, Clinton gained 10 delegates overall on the day. Point is, Obama won Texas. And I'm still seeing all the news articles saying the opposite. Well I've definitely seen some articles saying that the caucus results changed some of the momentum. But the media needs some actual numbers showing that Obama won Texas overall. I'm not sure that's available yet.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 08:14 PM) Interesting. So for what counts for the process, Obama wins Texas. If he picks up more ground in WY and MS, that makes for a pretty big gap. Still though, I think PA is HUGE. But North Carolina is also very large, and also very much Obama territory. I think Obama should also come out and say he thinks that the people of Florida and Michigan deserve to be counted in a fair way, and let his people fight for the most beneficial process for him.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) LMFAO!!!!! Reading this thread from beginning to end knowing what the results were was just f***ing hilarious. The Bike Obama supporters were so (did I say Bike? Fruedian slip.) f***ing cocky waiting for the big cities in Texas to report, and what happened? A wave of votes for Billary came in and she won by damn near 100K votes. Then the Obamaites started grasping at any straw they could so they could still feel good about things. Spin city here! And you guys talk about Fox News. LOL ... Billary is gonna get the nomination. She'll probably pick Obama as VP but it won't be enough. Too many Obama people will just be disgusted at the net result and just not vote in the general. Gotta love this. It's just too good. Alright there bud. It's called optimism. I guess you hadn't picked up on the whole theme of the Obama campaign yet huh? I don't know if I'm cocky, stupid, arrogant, optimistic, funny, smart, realistic or desperate in saying this (take your pick Yasny). But I've heard that the next two primaries favor Obama in Wyoming and Mississippi. Anyone have any polls, or reasons for this? Anyways, I think the reports about Obama's Texas caucus results will help dampen the big Clinton victories, and if he can manage wins in Wyoming and Mississippi, he'll get back in the groove. Of course he's got to avoid controversy and hope Clinton courts it.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 11:46 PM) So, what the heck happened to all those votes that were supposed to come in from the big cities in Texas? I really hope the 50 superdelegate rumor for Obama is true, as it would be nice to see something positive happen. The SNL curse continues to grow. I think it will still narrow up a little but there was still too many little areas, Hillary dominant, that hadn't fully come in yet. I doubt the 50 delegate thing is true. Difficult to hold all 50 delegates together. I could see them trying to announce them all at once and then 4 or 5 of them saying they are not for Obama, and that story would outweigh the positive.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 11:38 PM) Yikes. Yah I think the Texas primary is over. But Obama's going to win the caucus so all is not lost.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) Interesting to note that Dallas County is 54% in with Obama 52,242. If that projects out... Obama COULD close that gap. Houston's the big one, but Clinton also has Webb County and a bundle of other small ones where's she's got a huge lead.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 09:54 PM) Today started off as a good day with Favre retiring and the Stone news, but now with HF and OPRF losing, and HRC winning Ohio....a Texas win for her will make for a long night. Yah, I'm holding out for Texas.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) Clinton's going to take Texas AND Ohio. It's the SNL effect. I'm not kidding either, and neither is the MSM. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080304/ap_en_tv/obama_media Notice this has hit the AP now. Hillary is making a big comeback, folks, just like New Hampshire, just like when she was the "underdog" before. She's not out of this yet. Obama should win Texas. Harris County (Houston) is still at 0% reporting, Dallas is at 4%, and Travis County (Austin) is at 0%.

QUOTE(AngelasDaddy0427 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Her active courting of the white nationalist vote through the Obama's a muslim lie. I'm no Hillary Clinton backer but as far as I know there's no real evidence that the Clinton campaign purposely pushed the Obama is a muslim stuff.

QUOTE(AngelasDaddy0427 @ Mar 3, 2008 -> 03:12 PM) All I know is that Obama might of had a slight chance before he had his campaign contact Canada. Now that it's a proven fact he'll be lucky if he only loses both by 20 points. When it comes to international relations I'd dare to say that little is proven fact. I'd also say that debate about international agreements in a purely political setting would be 90% bulls*** anyways. All the same, this isn't good for Obama, but I'll hope it won't affect the results tommorow. The opposition in Canada is still attacking the Conservative Government for leaking details about these discussions, and I don't think that will stop soon. Canadians overwhelmingly favor the Democrats and to be seen as harming one of their chances surreptitiously is not a popular move.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 1, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) If Obama wouldn't make it a damn point just to make it a point, it wouldn't be a point at all. Think about it. He didn't make a f***in' point about it.