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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 07:58 PM) The fact that you say it that way implies that all muslims are terrorists. They are not. The "Death to America" world is that 1% of Muslims who actually feel that way. Al Jazeera, despite their poor attempt to appear objective, is clearly the mouthpiece for those 1% and as such they are the enemy. They are little different from the Tokyo Rose or Axis Annie of another time. I'm just going to disagree with you on the Al-Jazeera issue. But probably neither of us know enough about Al-Jazeera to make a good judgement.

Rove's lawyer says it wasn't Rove who leaked the CIA's name http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm So it's Luskin's word against O'Donnell's at this point

Where is the saluting Tex smiley?

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 06:06 PM) Lawernce O'Donnell works for MSNBC as a Senior Political Analyst. And dont MSNBC and Newsweek work together on some stories, or something like that? They are tied somehow. Maybe somebody else can explain it http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080444 but this Rove deal is a real interesting story. from wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) Al-Jazeera isn't an American based "news" organization. They shouldn't be allowed the same freedoms as an American news organization gets under the Constitution. Until they want freedom throughout the world, they get none from America. This seems like the same idea as Gitmo, they're not on US soil so we don't have to treat them as equals. Every person on the face of the earth deserves the same freedoms, whether they like America or not. And to call Al-Jazeera a terrorist network is a cop out and in my opinion wrong and Al-Jazeera certainly isn't against freedom in one bit. check out the trailer for Control Room... PLZ!!!!!!!!! http://www.controlroommovie.com/site/01.html great quote from A.O. Scott on the movie (whether you like Scott or not)

Newsweek those liberal bastards, pick up the story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8445696/site/newsweek/

QUOTE(Yoda @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) I thought this thread is already being used for talking movies? Or am I missing the point of this thread? Tex might just be a little curious, considering the miserable slump the movie business is in.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 03:22 PM) Al Jazeera does nothing but promote anti-American viewpoints. Why should America co-operate with them? Honestly, have you ever sat down and watched AL-Jazeera for a day? Neither have I.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) Wow, you just saw Clerks? Have you seen any of the rest of the Kevin Smith movies? Sadly just the Jay and Silent Bob movie. Needless to say the rest of his movies are on my must seee list.

last movies I bought tickets to were Land of the Dead, Batman Begins, and Star Wars probably will check out War of the Worlds too

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) I didn't think I had to repeat it. I was being lazy more than anything. cool

Alright, but 2 of your posts after that aren't so generous

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Ok ... Go back to World War II and we broadcast to Germany where are weeknesses are? I guess we would be called racist because we don't like blong haired, blue eyed people. I'll say that showing that is aiding the enemy, so therefore, in your mind I'm stupid. Personally, I think anybody who can't see where giving information to the f***ing enemy is not a smart thing to do .. well, that fits the definition of fool. If you don't think they already know about that, how the hell did manage to hijack a bunch of planes with extreme skill. Insane doesn't mean stupid, and being patriotic doesn't neccesarily mean you're not stupid. Why would America even bother giving them freedom then. :headshake

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 08:15 AM) Regardless of how you choose to classify Al-Jazeera, the fact remains that they broadcast to the Arab world. Within that Arab world does exist a faction that are, in fact, sworn enemies of the USA. So .... The so called idiots known as the Minutemen were not so f***ing stupid because AJ's target audience is partially comprised of enemies of the USA. Those are the people the minutemen didn't want to broadcast the information to about the gaping security hole known as our southern border. Some "idiots" actually think things through. Others just spout rhetoric. I just can't believe that. It seems more like blatant racism to me, like 99.9% of the middle eastern world really isn't the enemy of America. Stupidity and uninformed racism. If they are stupid enough to say that showing this would be aiding the enemy, these guys are off their rocker.

I just saw Clerks for the first time tonight. It's really incredible how good the writing was when considering how low budget this is. Kevin Smith really is a genius writer.

drudgereport.com is now covering it http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/articl...t_id=1000972839

I'm not an expert on this whole situation but would this lend some credence to Wilson's claim that this was pay back for revealing the state of the union lie? And is McLaughlin group a television show?

wow.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 08:04 PM) I doubt any tears were shed over that among the military. While you're probably not being totally serious that kind of sentiment is very scary.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 07:01 PM) Al Jazerra is little more than a mouthpiece for Al Quada thinly veiled as a legitimate news organization. As such they are indeed the enemy. Oh Nuke, I hope the US military doesn't think like you on this subject. Cause then it would be reasonable to think that the US military actually did attack Al-Jazeera on purpose. http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-01/ I beg you to check out the documentary called Control Room.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) If you're thinking that these people spent that entire month every day out there on the border you're mistaken. These people all have jobs and went out there in their spare time on a day off or a weekend or something. A small minority of those who took part were actually out there the whole time and they were retirees. You're a hypocrite BTW. The minuteman program is a form of protest. A protest against a non-existent border enforcement policy of this government. Why do they have no idea about the way the world works? Because they protest for a right wing cause? You show your ignorance by such statements. I guess it could be considered a form of protest, whatever, I'm probably too hard on them. But my original point has to do with the whole al-jazeera thing. They'd like to lump everyone into the good or the bad. To label al-jazeera as the enemy is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure its main criticism has been it's to nice to Israel. On this point they probably really have no idea how middle east works, but I won't pretend to understand the whole situation either.

hope you're right

I hate to say it but if these f***ers are smart enough and organized enough there is probably nothing to stop them from getting in. Just pray that FBI and Homeland Security have great people working for them. It's all very worrisome and a bunch of yokals sitting on the border doesn't reassure me one bit.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:38 PM) No, mostly Saudis. The ones involved in the Oklahoma city attack were. And the U.S. has broken up several other domestic terror threats in recent years, including 1 group in Texas that was literally caught making preparations for what can only be described as a chemical weapons attack - they had more WMD's than Iraq. Were the Saudis legally inside the United States?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) Even if that were true, which it isin't, they'd be a lot like the thousands of assholes on the looney left who have nothing better to do than protest President Bush and his policies. Walking down a street waving a sign in the air. GET A LIFE!!!!! I'd agree that they don't have a life if they were spending as much time of their lives protesting which I doubt many of them are. Protesting at organized meetings for what you believe in, to me, would be much more of a service to your country than these wanna be patriots who obviously have no idea of the way the world works. Of course we probably don't have lives, seeing as all the time we waste here on soxtalk