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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
These guys are the biggest dipshits. Yeah we're going to trade Stiever and Heuer etc. for the likes of Plesac, Means, etc. Tyler Johnson can replace Heuer, etc. These guys don't know shit about shit. Dumb as a box of rocks, charming as a bag of dicks, useful as a bucket of snot, the lot of them. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You are the Ted Cruz to the food fakers/not cishek's Trump. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Hahn spending to add Hendriks to this pitching staff would be like a guy who can barely pay his credit card debt adding rims to a Toyota Camry. It's wasteful, unnecessary, stupid, and the end result really isn't all that impressive anyway. -
Giolito is a guy who can pick up his strikes and then pitch in a way which is favorable to his end and unfavorable to the hitter, knowing that he can come back and throw the ball in the zone if he has to. Cease OTOH cannot pick up strikes when he needs to, really ever. He represents (as does Robert and Kopech) one of the bigger losses of last season because he really needed the reps and experience. Unfortunately he didn't get what he needed, so now there's the issue of him not only needing to get the full season workload of pitches per game and stressful innings, etc., that still has to be met, but he also has to "step forward" on top of it, and really that is 2 different steps that should be taken in 2 different seasons for a guy like him. Hopefully Katz can simplify some things for him and he can use use his power arsenal early and in the zone, and not focus on Ks just strikes and first pitch strikes, and go from there.
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I like Hand best as a replacement for Jace Fry with Colome still brought back as a closer. I bet we could trade Fry and get at least a pizza puff in return. Regular Season: Colome: 9th inning 3 outs guy Bummer + Heuer: L/R 6-7-8 inning emergency stoppers; also get 8th inning work Hand: traditional LHSU/2nd lefty in the pen Marshall: traditional RHSU/2nd righty in the pen Foster: first man out / LR / 6th inning guy Others like Burdi are worked in to develop Playoffs: Crochet: Our big-time FU type closer Colome: 8th inning guy / 10th inning guy Bummer + Heuer: stoppers / win by any means necessary guys Hand, Marshall, Foster: use as is necessary only
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Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The idea of Hand + Colome is a whole lot better than anything involving multiple years with Hendriks. IMO both of these guys should, at most, cost like 2 years guaranteed with options with buyouts on the 3rd year, and probably $6M low end to $9M high end. I would guess Hand is about 3/21 best but maybe he would go 2/15 with another $2M in a buyout and Colome should be available for 2/18 maybe with a $10M year 3 option and a $2M buyout. Just going off of those guesses, it would be like 16.5/16.5/4 guaranteed over 3 years which is only a bit more than Hendriks per year up front with no nasty back end. I think that's pretty responsible. Hendriks is irresponsible and unnecessary. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I strongly disagree. Giolito has coughed up chunks in several "big game" opportunities thus far (against the Cubs a couple times specifically) and even though he's also had some success against the Yankees I believe, he is not proven. And Giolito is the best we have. I still will not believe Lance Lynn is more than a currently-overachieving #3, and I think Keuchel is a #3, and our best guys still have yet to develop. I think we are a team that lacks those big stoppers. I don't think we have enough. I also think Eloy and especially Robert make too many mistakes at the plate and (Eloy) in the field to anchor our team on the positional side. I think we will be more of a force in 2022-25, **if** our players continue to develop. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Because I want to clear out Grandal's contract to make room for REALMUTO. And the Brewers supposedly wanted to keep him, and also appear to want something significant for Hader. But I admit I don't think the Brewers would take on his contract ATM. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Click on the link and look at the stats. His career suggests the performance he will be paid to replicate is the outlier. He's also a RP we'd be paying for his age 32, 33, 34 & 35 seasons. This should be pretty obvious. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Paying a maximum on the open market for a closer is always a shitty idea. It's even worse when you're thinking about pulling yourself out of the bidding for upper echelon SPs and starting position players to gather up the funds to do it. I have no idea where the rationale is on this site. This is usually seen as a terrible idea. This team isn't a closer away from being a title contender. They are like several SPs developing properly away from being a title contender at minimum, and they also need some more growth in the pen. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hendrli01.shtml Look at this guy's numbers. It's about the money and that's it. He had 1 and 3/8th career year seasons back-to-back and now he wants big money before he goes back to either sucking or pitching like an average setup guy again. Take the Blue Jays money, Liam! Stay away from this team! -
Offseason General Trade & Signing Ideas Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to YourWhatHurts's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Also I'm interested in seeing what a flier on David Robertson would cost. Maybe $1M guaranteed with incentives? Has he thrown in front of scouts? -
The previous thread on this is locked so I can't bump it to the top. I think it's time that a general targets/trade ideas thread resurfaces which is separate from all the food fuckers' crap which the same 2 posters keep putting out. You people stay out of this thread and keep those food fuckers and all their stupid bullshit out of here, ya hear? I'll start off by recommending a trade of Grandal back to the Brewers for Hader and a prospect. Then the Sox can throw some money at Realmuto. I'm not sure why the Brewers would want to take on that salary tho. Maybe get a third team involved.
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Tony LaRussa and his friend in a bar Tony LaRussa and his friend are hours into their night when Tony pukes on himself. "Oh man," Tony slurs, "my wife is going to kill me, I'm drunk, I'm late, and now I've puked on my shirt." "No, no, no." His buddy replies. "Here, give me $20." Tony is confused, but hands over the twenty. His friend takes it and stuffs it in Tony's shirt pocket. "There." Tony's friend says, "Now when you get home, tell your wife some rich guy puked on you and gave you $20 for your shirt." The drunks, now proud of this idea, keep drinking. When Tony gets home, his wife is up waiting for him, visibly angry. "Look at you", she sneers, "you're late, you're drunk, and you've thrown up on yourself." "No, no, no," Tony says, waving her off, "Some rich guy puked on me and gave me $20 for my shirt!" Tony takes the money out of his pocket and hands it to her. "You idiot," she says, " there's $40 here." Tony replies, "Yeah he shit in my pants as well!"
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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Reds would love to get Cease or Kopech for Gray. Not happening. Castillo? Different story but still an unnecessary move because it would cost 1 plus a lot more. Reds can have Madrigal but obviously offering a limited ceiling secondary piece like that isn't going to get the needle moving. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why is it that the same posters who "agreed" that Not Cishek was a fraud after he insisted the Sox were after Arenado even in the face of many denials including those by Stoney, still hang on his every word? You people are desperate. -
Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Years 3 and 4 of a Hendriks deal are likely going to be gas can years IMO. Hard pass. Take that Mets money, Liam (if they are offering it). -
Re: a SP, due to an abundance of quality internal SP depth, the Sox are best offering 1 year guaranteed + 1 year TO to the best guy on the market who will accept it. Yet that deal is obviously a pretty low-end deal for any of these FAs, so it makes sense that the Sox would have to wait it out a bit, as their targets will likely be looking for 2-3 years guaranteed first. There is of course the option to try to jump the gun and overpay in a shorter deal ala the Braves and Smyly but the Sox never do that.
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Yeah it's a pretty dumb idea to bring in a new pitching coach who will impart a new philosophy -- the same guy also who can be credited most heavily for turning Giolito from a bust into a potential ace -- and then take away his top guns before he even gets to work with them. Vote "no" on any proposition that involves trading Cease and/or Kopech ATM. Give Katz at least 1 year. Anyone with any sense knows that the ceilings on those guys are so high that if they can be developed to the point of reaching them, or even just coming pretty close, the Sox will have far more value on their hands than any amount of value they will be able to import by trading one of them.
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I think the issue is with the literal definition of the word. Getting Q, Hendriks and Colome all together just puts us closer to being on par with other elite teams. Overkill here would make more sense if we were already on par with these teams and we were making a move that wasn't necessary at all. I agree though that getting Hendriks and Colome is a less-than-optimal use of dorf-limited resources. That's why I pass on giving out what is very likely going to be a bad 4-year deal for Hendriks and focus on bringing back Colome for 1 year guaranteed with an option, then seeking to hedge the bet with a couple fliers on guys like McGee or something who should be cheap. Keep in mind Garrett Crochet is better than all of these guys and he'll be in the pen for the stretch run.
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One of my most hated moments as a Sox fan was when KW non-tendered DJ Carrasco because he was projected to earn $1M in arb. Of all of the cheap and petty moves... It reminds me (given the season) of the time Clark W. Griswold was given a subscription to a jelly-of-the-month club instead of a Christmas bonus he was relying upon to put in a pool. Also reminds me of dumping buyouts recently and using Edwin Jackson to dump Mark Teahen's deal which they had zero reason to offer in the first place.
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I remember not meeting him. I sent him a couple messages to a website many years ago asking if he wanted to go to a Brewers game with me and a buddy and get pretty hammered in the parking lot (sitting up in the nosebleeds of course). He'd didn't respond. This is the only time I have ever messaged a celebrity or really anyone I didn't know o have a business-related reason to, but I tried just because he seemed cool enough to perhaps actually do something like that, and I wanted to see. Mr. Show is pound for pound, sketch for sketch, the greatest comedy creation in the history of mankind by my estimation. I haven't watched any of the DVDs in years but I know if I put any one of them in I'd go right back to laughing my ass off again. Also I want to say that they did a Mr Show tour in the US many years ago and I saw them in Chicago. This was I think several years after the show officially ended. You see that also?
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Rossy has joined my list of unlikely short-term heroes which I found it enjoyable to root for. This list includes DJ Carrasco, Luis Vizcaino, Dylan Axelrod, Scott Carroll, Zach Putnam, and the still-breathing Evan Marshall.
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Ross keeps ball in zone Mostly opponents make outs Ruiz wonders how
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Old: Mega Hendriks Speculation Thread
YourWhatHurts replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Stupid as a fox IMO. One of them happens to be a complete and total creep who has his creepy fingers in who knows how many dirty places. He'll walk away with a pre-emptive pardon. The other one is setting her self up for book deals, conspiracy website traffic, who knows what else, and both are going to end up forever in the good graces of a billionaire whose moral compass only points to people who like him enough to tell lies for him. What you see IMO is typical of cling-ons around people with tons of money and power. That said, all the fake rumor people are dipshits, and in their cases, as attorneys or not, I would not dispute that they are both insane and stupid.