South Side Hit Men

Am I missing something here? Because I look at the 40 man roster, I'd say 20 max players might matter in 2026 (likely 5-10), and 20 could stay or go and it doesn't matter to any solid future White Sox team. Valuable (2): Robert Jr. & Cease Guys who will or might possibly matter in 2026 (18): Born 1996 M. Kopech Born 1997 Fletcher, Shewmake Born 1998 O. Colas, J. Cousin, Z. DeLoach, J. Eder, K. Lee, J. Shuster,, A. Speas, A. Vaughn Born 1999 G. Crochet, S. Drohan, D. Garcia Born 2000 P. Berroa, L. Sosa Born 2021 J. Rodriguez Born 2022 B. Ramos

This is the lowest Boston payroll ($181.2M) in a real season since 2014 ($156.3M), and in inflation adjusted dollars since 2003 ($99.9M). Meanwhile, this ($132.2M) is the third highest payroll in White Sox history. Not to mention Red Sox tickets are significantly higher than the "dynamic pricing" charged by Brooks Boyer. Bottom line, both Sox will suck royally, standard operating procedure for Jerry, not as much for Boston.

The Sox have announced eight players officially signed, with only the four reported on the mlb / milb online portal. 3B $1,800,000 Eduardo Herrera (10/23/06) San Felipe, Venezuela (Signed 1/24/24) SS $600,000 Jurdrick Profar (4/24/07) Willemstad, Curacao (Signed 1/24/24) 3B $550,000 Jesus Premoli (1/19/07) Barquisimeto, Venezuela (Signed 1/24/24) OF $550,000 Christian Gonzalez - Pending online transaction update on MLB/Milb.com RHP $375,000 Orlando Suarez - Pending online transaction update on MLB/Milb.com RHP $100,000 Alexandre Valdiviezo - Pending online transaction update on MLB/Milb.com SS $80,000 Jhoangel Suarez - Pending online transaction update on MLB/Milb.com RHP $55,000 Jeziel Boekhoudt (1/29/07) Willemstad, Curacao (Signed 1/23/24) The White Sox have $1,815,000 remaining, of their $5,925,000 total pool through 1/14/25 for: Venezuelans Juan Berroteran & Manuel Ramos Dominican Republican pending official signing announcements Additional players +/- Trades of slot money

I can see people anticipating concerns Jerry, Getz and Pedro will sacrifice development to “win now” as they have the past three years under the ongoing Tony/Pedro Combo Meal. The Sox are 235-251 going “all in” since firing Ricky Renteria. Sosa is the one player out of the current prospects I’d start 4-5 games a week between 2B, 3B and SS. Would much rather have Sosa on the roster to see what he can do than having Moustakas. Would also prefer the Sox have Eloy work at 1B this Spring to see if he can handle 10-20 games a year to cover Vaughn, than carry Sheets, Moustakas or some other DH type in one of the four precious reserve spots to back up 1B. It’s in Eloy’s interest as well to try to pick up 1B to be more valuable than a DH only player.

Even for the mayor, there are higher priorities than protecting CTU and a teacher. Jerry is the one applying the most pressure, but Johnson also greatly benefits after he sweeps it under the rug. Johnson will face questions as to why did the City allow Jerry and/or Terry Savarise to overrule CPD and not halt the game, to ensure the area was secure and also to investigate the crime scene? Jerry's in-house off-duty CPD security staff responsible for lapses with procedures and or the metal detectors would also like this to go away. A criminal charge warrants a public police record which will lead to multiple issues for CPS and the CTU, including does this woman also bring her gun to class each day, since she doesn't appear to have the will and/or sense to not bring guns into gun free zones, and why hasn't CPS begun removal procedures for blatantly violating Chicago residency requirements? The Sox will also be asked whether she is allowed to her to retain season tickets after this incident, and if so why? The corporate media, especially in Chicago and especially in sports rarely rock the boat for any substantial discussions. They solely want to continue to have access so they can hang on to the ever shrinking jobs in that field. Nearly all are stenographers, not journalists. Would say James Fegan is one of the few exceptions, and I'm not sure Jerry will even allow him access to press allowed areas of the stadium.

Every single stadium in those cities were built with their own funds. The Giants paid off their stadium seven years ago, and more than 20 years after San Francisco and the State of California told the Giants to GTFO when they asked for public subsidies. It's an incredible stadium to attend games, light years ahead of what the Sox slapped up, and what they will ultimately slap up if Jerry has any role on any new project. The developers can't even spell Chicago in their renderings. Meanwhile, the Giants also won three World Series while paying off their mortgage. They hire competent baseball people, not Rick Hahn and Tony La Russa, who is still haunting the franchise like Marley's Ghost. https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb/news/the-att-park-mortgage-is-paid-off#:~:text=The Giants%2C unlike most other,to pay for it themselves.

The cities and various teams of SF and LA, are vastly more successful then the Sox. Their respective governments support local business efforts, without obligating taxpayers to fund the capital expenses of private enterprises. Not to mention the Cubs which exist in the same political environment as the Sox, were purchased for less money than the Sox, and are far more successful in every aspect of their business, now worth twice as much. They also fund their own capital projects. That is how successful major projects are done in this country. This is why the Cubs are worth twice as much forty three years later, in the same city. A win win for the entire community. Jerry’s way of doing business is what is very lacking, certainly for the citizens of Chicago and Illinois, and the thousands of White Sox fans left he hasn’t yet chased away.

The loss of the White Sox would significantly reduce the value of Jerry’s RSN. Any new location would generate significantly lower TV revenue, including Nashville, Vegas or Portland. They would likely become a MLB revenue sharing welfare recipient, which would likely please Jerry. Also, what would be left of the remaining RSN owned by the Bulls and Hawks (and CSN if they renew the current pact) would have trouble retaining already declining carriage fees and advertising leverage with a six month Summer hole in their programming. Think the Cubs make enough alone which is why they broke off, and wouldn’t be interested splitting equal shares like the previous arrangement.

No, but all this smoke and mirror s%*#, the faux $4B in “new economic activity” is merely shifting stadium income two miles north and office and residential demand one-two miles south to 78, and creating large costs to salvage what already exists. The only way significant revenue is generated from the new stadium itself is to gouge everyone one buying a ticket and overpriced junk food and MLB replica cheap ass clothing inside. I’m completely fine with that, but it should be based on a several dollar tax on every ticket sold to pay off the debt, and a lien placed on the club to guarantee the bonds, not an abandoned stadium as collateral if they move or fold, until the bonds are paid in full. Also, these “failed real estate businesses” stated by the other one were caused by years of absurd lockdown policies that didn’t do a damn thing, and that states and cities thriving now passed on this destruction in the Summer of 2020, years before the meme people here did the same.

How are the White Sox or Bears a successful businesses in terms of what they do on behalf of the city or state? These billionaires screwed the city and state to the tune of over a billion dollars the past 35 years, and both want to f*** over the politician and citizen rubes for billions more. Your brilliant argumemt is to hand out another $1.5B to the Sox in order to capture several million annually in Sox income tax, and pump temp 80 day slave wage jobs. Jerry already proposed not paying sales tax for decades in his proposal, won’t pay a penny on property tax, and hasn’t contributed anything the last few decades because nobody wants to watch the team he destroyed the past forty years. I get this is a Sox message board, but the vocal people who support anything he demands plus a cherry on top don’t live here, and won’t suffer any financial consequences. Go petition Lake County Indiana to give the Sox $1.5B, because few here want any piece of this frankly obscene and immoral proposal. Wished the worthless Bears moved to Gary in the early nineties. Chicago would have several hundred million more to benefit residents. Wouldn’t have to go to the pawn shop to sell parking meters, the skyway, or attempt to pawn the airports. The city is dead broke even after selling off our future, and can’t provide basic services, including athletic facilities and instructors at public parks and schools.

The math works without magic in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and the rest of the world including for Canadian teams competing in our domestic leagues.

Not proposing new government subsidies to convert. Stabilize taxes, restore adequate public safety. Invest in our neighborhoods. As real estate stabilizes to a proper equilibrium, projects will be viable without the combined $3.5b handouts proposed by Jerry and handed to LY. Make Chicago an attractive place to visit and move to, like it was perceived to be the previous four decades before the government lockdowns and significant increase in crime the past four years.

What’s sitting empty the next 50 years in Chicago and much of America are trillions in worthless office space and retail space, i. e. much of downtown which has been a ghost town and the office workers are not recovering much beyond their current levels. The city needs to focus on converting as much dead office space as possible into residential, and start getting a handle on crime and taxes so that there are people and retail will take up existing space. Lincoln Yards was given $2b in handouts, and they haven’t built anything because there is no demand for anything, and won’t be until the massive glut in excess space begins to wind down.

https://wgntv.com/sports/white-sox/report-reinsdorf-to-seek-1-billion-in-public-money-from/amp/ The original lie of no new taxes was already exposed with the release this afternoon. The ISFA can’t cover the much smaller existing debt with the vastly under projected revenue streams, let alone $1 billion more. Today Jerry proposed to extend the existing hotel tax by 30 additional years. He also proposed a new $400 million tax district to keep $400 million in stadium and development sales tax receipts. So nobody gets anything but Jerry for this development until the 2060s, when it’s time for the Sox to demand a new $18b stadium (inflation / entitlement). The Sox, Bears and Politicians made the same “we’re going to pay this all off in 30 years” lies in the 1980s and 1990s. The state and city had to pay huge subsidies on top of all the hotel taxes just to cover interest payments the past two decades. They borrowed $399m for Soldier Field in 1994 and owe $388m today. Nothing was paid off. Enormous resources were lost. And the Bears are leaving. The city and state will both eat nine fugues in addition to forgoing all hotel tax revenue plus $400M, plus the ongoing and growing shortfalls in just paying interest.

Yes I was, and read through the leases last Summer, which can be found in the post linked below. The post below covers both the Sox and Bears. The Sox’ favorable original terms were sweetened over the most recent two extensions. The also get $15M annual (amount grows each year, unlike the hotel tax revenue) to keep for “renovations”, plus he keeps 50% of all ticket, parking and concession taxes except in 2022, when they returned a small portion for barely going over 1.9M. The Bears deal was even worse. They borrowed $398 million, but $640M is owed today, plus the city had to kick in $20-$29M each year since 2019 to cover the shortfall between budgeted hotel tax revenue and actual.

All owners of 78 property need to pay property taxes that goes to schools and parks and first responders and all other city departments like all other non TIF assessed property. The city or county do not benefit if all funds in 78 continue to be TIF sequestered. The Sox need to pay a significant rent as well, not $0, or negative rent when you count all the subsidies the ISFA hands him beyond free rent. The Sox also need to pay the full entertainment and sales tax rates on tickets, concessions and parking. They current lease allows them to keep at least 50% of the ticket tax, and IIRC also concession and parking sales taxes collected, if their attendance is below 1,900,000, which it has been all but one year (2022) during the Hahn Era. It’s likely to never exceed that number again at the current park unless there is a new owner before 2026, or if they extend the lease on 35th.

It is still called Lane Tech by most everyone alive today. Wonder where this writer and or editor are from. The HS was named after Albert Grannis Lane, a CPS Superintendent in the 1890s. It opened as Albert Grannis Lane Manual Training High School. In 1934, it was renamed Albert Grannis Lane Technical High School In 2004, it was renamed Albert Grannis Lane Technical College Prep High School.

Just one more thing (Columbo Style). What does she do with her gun(s) on school days, and in particular the day in question. If she does the responsible thing on school days and locks her gun either at home or locked in an out of sight case within her locked car, as permitted under the ILL CC law, why didn’t she feel comfortable doing the same while attending the Sox game? Especially since she knew she would be searched. Or does she carry her gun everywhere, including into the school she teaches, knowing staff isn’t subject to metal detectors searches. Took a chance stashing it on her person knowing her purse would be searched and therefore kept the gun stashed on her person rather than the smarter option of locking in a locked case and vehicle. It’s possible she was off, but since she was attending with co-workers it’s likely she worked and stayed in the city (she works at a North Side CPS school) before the game, vs. driving to the far SW suburbs where she lives, and then fighting rush hour traffic a second time to get to Sox park in time for the game.

These takes are worse than your Dominic Fletcher takes. If you shoot yourself and another person, violate CC laws, violate City Residency employment laws, you should be held accountable. Period. And the Sox should also pull her season ticket privileges.

I don't recall William Ligue shooting two people at Comiskey Park, walking scot-free out of the park. No prosecution, telling the cops to go f*** themselves. CPD bending the knee to Johnson and his CTU boss out in South Bend, Indiana. And you're out of your element Buehrle-Wood.

The City is already eating an additional $29M in debt service due to hotel tax shortfalls. Tourism remains lower than 2019 levels, so negative actual growth rates the past four years and counting vs. the 5.5% annual growth projected when these scams were concocted by Jerry and the McCaskeys. This is on top of Jerry's property tax free, rent free, maintenance paid for, keep every last nickel 38 year lease, and of course he wants a shitload more, because it's never enough. What kind of "rosy" projections and tax shortfalls will Chicagoans have to eat over the next 30-40 years to fund this $1.5B welfare payment, plus all the likely additional cost overruns and other "surprises"? No surprise they floated this giant turd on a Friday evening. Pritzker must flush this scheme down the toilet immediately, if not sooner.

My point is if Bob from Accounting is returning to sit in the office or work from home after completing chemo after resting for just short of two months from his final chemo treatment, I'd say good for Bob, let's take it slow and give him any space or time he needs. Can't imagine pitching / arm recovery time is the same a few weeks after undergoing 3 months of chemo treatment to treat Stage 4 cancer. Healthy pitchers get 42 days to build strength in Arizona before Opening Day. Whereas Liam gets 19 fewer days (23 days between May 5-28). Sox were already 11 games out and their season was Ovah! before he returned. Classic White Sox injury management.

Hard pass. Use that money on behalf of the 2,700,000 who live here, not some lifelong asshole billionaire from Highland Park.

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Anything reported since Monday, either regarding the three announced players, or any additional signings? For the January signings, the transactions appeared within a day on the Sox' MLB / MILB websites. This hasn't happened yet for the three players announced Monday, nor has Mike Moustakas' NRI invited been reported in the White Sox transaction section (last updated February 8).