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Well, we are discussing exemptions to Canada's entry requirements, Tony germane.

Well they do have criteria for exemptions (food and processing workers, marine crew members, those entering on compassionate grounds, etc.) just as there are permits and waivers to allow Tony La Russa and others with DUI arrests into the country. Kendall Graveman missed 19 days last season due to COVID protocols, and there was a significant COVID outbreak at that time which impacted their bullpen. Seattle missed the playoffs by a single game. Fans now have to hope a similar outbreak doesn't occur with the White Sox with Graveman in the mix. Perhaps MLB and the Players Union will negotiate a vaccine requirement into the new CBA. The NBA (under 5%) and NHL (4 total players) have nearly vaccinated all player and travel personnel, whereas MLB's threshold target has been 85% to date entering into the CBA negotiations, with no player mandate.

So, do the Sox leave him off the playoff roster if they face Toronto, or use him aggressively during home games and hope for the best?

They will need to replace Matz on the wishlist.

Same as it ever was. https://www.si.com/nfl/titans/news/titans-dave-mcginnis-nf Dave McGinnis Once Was Bears Head Coach -- And Didn't Know It The current Titans radio color analyst's pursuit of a 'dream job' turned into a nightmare due to numerous missteps by the venerable franchise.

Let’s rephrase the question: When was the last time (if ever) Bob Nightingale tweeted a positive rumor about the White Sox that came to fruition?

My post was a review of Hahn's history in relation to Kendall Graveman's signing, not a rehash of the 4 month old Kimbrel discussion. His RP FA signings have been solid overall. If you or Two Gun Pete want to put together something else, the board is an open forum.

It's the number one trait Tony looks for in a reliever.

Hahn has had a solid record overall with relief pitching acquisitions. Hahn's 2013-2021 Relief Pitching Acquisitions ($5M +): $13.0M Liam Hendriks $54M 4 years; 2021; 71 IP; 2.6 bWAR; 2.54 ERA; 2.34 FIP. Three years remaining. $11.5M David Robertson $46M 4 years; 2015 - July 2017; 159 IP; 2.9 bWAR; 3.28 ERA; 3.05 FIP. Traded for Blake Rutherford (AAA). $9.0M Joakim Soria $9M + $1M buyout; April - July 2018; 38.2 IP; 1.1 bWAR; 2.56 ERA; 2.15 FIP. Traded for minor leaguers. $9.0M Kelvin Herrera $17M + $1M buyout; 53.2 IP; -0.5 bWAR; 6.54 ERA; 4.95 FIP. Free agent. $8.9M Alex Colome $17.85M 2019-2020; 83.1 IP; 2.1 bWAR; 2.27 ERA; 3.78 FIP. Free agent. $8.0M Kendall Graveman $24M 3 years. Three years remaining. $6.0M Steve Cishek $5.25M + $0.75M buyout; 20 IP; -0.2 bWAR, 5.40 ERA; 5.64 FIP. Free agent. $5.3M Craig Kimbrel $5.3M Aug-Sept 2021; 2022 Trade TBD? 23 IP; 0.0 bWAR; 5.09 ERA; 4.56 FIP. 2022 / possible trade candidate. $5.0M Zach Duke $15M 3 years: 2015 - July 2016: 98 IP; 1.7 bWAR; 3.11 ERA; 4.01 FIP. Traded for Charlie Tilson (-1.6 bWAR).

Yes, Graveman was off for two years after his surgery and conversion, regressed some after the innings caught up to him (as did Kimbrel) to end the year. Both should be fine after securing a normal RP workload in 2021 without injury issues, though Jerry Reinsdorf just stated the Sox continue to look to trade Kimbrel.

Yep. My grandfather was born in 1918, died 80 years later, never saw the Sox win a playoff series. A majority of Sox fans suffered the same fate. Miami began play less than 30 years ago and have two World Series Championships. Only the toughest of the tough can survive being a Sox fan their entire life. Number of World Series Championships + League Pennants: (40 = 27 + 13) New York A.L. (WS 2009, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1996, 1978, 1977, 1962, 1961, 1958, 1956, 1953, 1952, 1951, 1950, 1949, 1947, 1943, 1941, 1939, 1938, 1937, 1936, 1932, 1928, 1927, 1923. AL 2003, 2001, 1981, 1976, 1964, 1963, 1960, 1957, 1955, 1942, 1926, 1922, 1921) (21 = 7 + 14) Los Angeles N.L. (Brooklyn) (WS 2020, 1988, 1981, 1965, 1963, 1959, 1955. NL 2018, 2017, 1978, 1977, 1974, 1966, 1956, 1953, 1952, 1949, 1947, 1941, 1920, 1916) (20 = 8 + 12) San Francisco (New York N.L.) (WS 2014, 2012, 2010, 1954, 1933, 1922, 1921, 1905. NL 2002, 1989, 1962, 1951, 1937, 1936, 1924, 1923, 1917, 1913, 1912, 1911) (19 = 11 + 8) Saint Louis N.L. (WS 2011, 2006, 1982, 1967, 1964, 1946, 1944, 1942, 1934, 1931, 1926. NL 2013, 2004, 1987, 1985, 1968, 1943, 1930, 1928) (14 = 9 + 5) Oakland (Kansas City / Philadelphia A.L.) (WS 1989, 1974, 1973, 1972, 1930, 1929, 1913, 1911, 1910. AL 1990, 1988, 1931, 1914, 1905) (13 = 9 + 4) Boston A.L. (WS 2018, 2013, 2007, 2004, 1918, 1916, 1915, 1912, 1903. AL 1986, 1975, 1967, 1946) (11 = 4 + 7) Detroit (WS 1984, 1968, 1945, 1935. AL 2012, 2006, 1940, 1934, 1909, 1908, 1907) (11 = 3 + 8) Chicago N.L. (WS 2016, 1908, 1907. NL 1945, 1938, 1935, 1932, 1929, 1918, 1910, 1906) (10 = 4 + 6) Atlanta (Milwaukee N.L. / Boston N.L.) (WS 2021, 1995, 1957, 1914. NL 1999, 1996, 1992, 1991; 1958; 1948) (9 = 5 + 4) Cincinnati (WS 1990, 1976, 1975, 1940, 1919. NL 1972, 1970, 1961, 1939) (7 = 5 + 2) Pittsburgh (WS 1979, 1971, 1960, 1925, 1909. NL 1927, 1903) (7 = 3 + 4) Baltimore (Saint Louis A.L.) (WS 1983, 1970, 1966. AL 1979, 1971, 1969, 1944) (7 = 2 + 5) Philadelphia N.L. (WS 2008, 1980. NL 2009, 1993, 1983, 1950, 1915) (6 = 3 + 3) Minnesota (Washington A.L.) (WS 1991, 1987, 1924. AL 1965, 1933, 1925) (6 = 2 + 4) Cleveland (WS 1948, 1920. AL 2016, 1997, 1995, 1954) (5 = 2 + 3) New York N.L. (1962) (WS 1986, 1969. NL 2015, 2000, 1973) (5 = 3 + 2) Chicago A.L. (WS 2005, 1917, 1906. AL 1959, 1919) (4 = 2 + 2) Kansas City (1969) (WS 2015, 1985. AL 2014, 1980) (4 = 1 + 3) Houston N.L & A.L. (1962) (WS 2017. AL 2021, 2019. NL 2005) (2 = 2 + 0) Miami (1993) (WS 2003, 1997) (2 = 2 + 0) Toronto (1977) (WS 1993, 1992) (2 = 0 + 2) Tampa Bay (1998) (AL 2020, 2008) (2 = 0 + 2) San Diego (1969) (NL 1998, 1984) (2 = 0 + 2) Texas (Washington A.L.) (1961) (AL 2011, 2010) (1 = 1 + 0) Arizona (1998) (WS 2001) (1 = 1 + 0) Washington N.L. (Montreal) (1969) (WS 2019) (1 = 1 + 0) Los Angeles A.L. (1961) (WS 2002) (1 = 0 + 1) Colorado (1993) (NL 2007) (1 = 0 + 1) Milwaukee A.L & N.L. (1969) (AL 1982) (0 = 0 + 0) Seattle (1977)

You have to judge this in the context of their total budget and final off-seasons. 1 year more than I would have liked, and perhaps $1M-$2M more per year than ideal, but overall he projects to be a decent pitcher. For those with short memories, this is the guy the Seattle clubhouse freaked out about when he was traded while Houston was in town.

Playoff appearances are a poor way to judge success. Advancing in playoff series (beyond the WC coin flip game) is a more legitimate standard. How your team stacked up against the 4-10 best teams in the playoffs. The Sox have only advanced a single season (thankfully they won all three series) since the Division/Wild Card era (1969-2021). Colorado, which started playing thirty years later, are the only other team to have advanced in the playoffs a single season in the Division/Wild Card era.

Very sad news, so young.

I've only read the Chicago Reader in terms of ink / paper newspapers since Mike Royko left Murdoch's Sun Times. While Mark may have an accurate source, he has a controversial background beyond "Pulitzer Prize" winning journalist, lasting a whole two weeks as managing editor at the paper before getting shitcanned for multiple reasons. https://www.robertfeder.com/2018/02/18/mark-konkol-chicago-reader-editor/

Will Jerry play Santa Claus this offseason and move the Sox all the way up to 26th? Magic 8-Ball says:

But none on pitching. Ohtani was signed primarily as a hitter, and his salary is ridiculously suppressed based on yet another owner salary suppression scheme.

Largest contracts by team: Total Contract (Years Year Signed) Last WS Los Angeles N.L.: Mookie Betts $365M (12 2020) 2020 Los Angeles A.L.: Mike Trout $360M (10 2019) 2002 New York N.L.: Francisco Lindor $341M (10 2021) 1986 San Diego: Fernando Tatis Jr. $340M (14 2021) Expansion 1969 - N.L. Pennant 1998 Philadelphia: Bryce Harper $330M (13 2019) 2008 Miami: Giancarlo Stanton $325M (13 2015) 2003 New York A.L.: Gerrit Cole $324M (9 2020) 2009 Texas: Alex Rodriguez $252M (10 2001) Expansion 1961 - A.L. Pennant 2011 Detroit: Miguel Cabrera $248M (8 2014) 1984 Washington: Steven Strausburg $245M (7 2020) 2019 Seattle: Robinson Cano $240M (10 2014) Expansion 1977 - A.L. West 2001 Colorado: Nolan Arenado $234M (7 2019) Expansion 1993 - N.L. Pennant 2007 Cincinnati: Joey Votto $225M (10 2012) 1990 Boston: David Price $217M (7 2016) 2018 Arizona: Zack Greinke $206.5M (6 2016) 2001 Milwaukee: Christian Yelich $188.5M (7 2020) Expansion Seattle Pilots 1969 - A.L. Pennant 1982 Tampa Bay: Wander Franco $185M (11 2022) Expansion 1998 - A.L. Pennant 2020 (Evan Longoria $100M (6 2013) previous highest) Minnesota: Joe Mauer $184M (8 2010) 1991 Chicago N.L.: Jason Heyward $184M (8 2016) 2016 San Francisco: Buster Posey $167M (8 2013) 2014 Baltimore: Chris Davis $161M (7 2016) 1983 Houston: Jose Altuve $151M (5 2018) 2017 Toronto: George Springer $150M (6 2021) 1993 Atlanta: Freddie Freeman $135M (8 2014) 2021 Saint Louis: Paul Goldschmidt $130M (5 2019) 2011 Kansas City: Salvador Perez $82M (4 2021) 2015 Chicago A.L.: Yasmani Grandal $73M (4 2020) 2005 Oakland: Eric Chavez $66M (6 2004) 1989 Cleveland: Edwin Encarnacion $60M (3 2017) 1948 Pittsburgh: Andrew McCutchen $51.5M (6 2012) 1979

Multiple reports, this preceded Hector’s. Looks legit. Congratulations to both sides. Hopefully for Tampa fans, they don’t try to dump his salary after 1-2 seasons.

Holy crap on the Joe Blanton observation. No wonder they have been mired in mediocrity for this long, despite having the best player in the game.

Don't ever give up!

I'm not "hiding" behind anything. My user name is White Sox appropriate (and the same I used on White Sox Interactive). I used my "real name" for social gatherings organized on WSI, and would do the same on this board when interacting with others in person.

Outside of Robert, there is no player I would consider untouchable on the Sox. That said, it seems as though people are vastly underselling Vaughn's worth to the team today and tomorrow. I would only consider trading either Eloy or Vaughn for a package that included outstanding cost controlled talent which could help the Sox win now and the next few years, the same worth that Eloy and Vaughn currently provide the Sox. with the primary benefit clearing the glut of 1B/DH and RHHs Hahn has accumulated. The reason I selected Eloy for the poll is based on the fact the return package would be far greater, and Vaughn's contract status is much more beneficial over the next five years. He is my first choice if trading the primary young elite core (Robert, Moncada, Kopech, Vaughn).

Perhaps, but not sure how cowardly one must be to be concerned with someone reviewing their reaction, especially on an anonymous message board. People should be all for transparency, and should be able to stand by what they post and also their reactions.

It doesn’t, Tim should remain at leadoff, assuming Marcus and no one else major is brought in, because Tim consistently has a better OBP, whereas Marcus consistently has a better OPS, and can drive him home. I agree with Fathom, wouldn’t consider a 6-7 year deal for Semien, which he is also likely to sign as a SS. Don’t see the Sox offering that to him. The Sox can get multiple quality players for multiple holes spending those funds wisely, assuming that is even what Hahn had to work with, and they don’t screw over the future with Heyward type contracts. Now can Hahn do it like Kenny did with his 2004-2005 offseason moves is another story, though that’s beyond the scope of this discussion.