South Side Hit Men

Way to settle down, time to get to the Twins bullpen.

He’s the only one worth a damn so far, unless one likes Narron’s calligraphy.

DJ said it was the right call to send him, everything had to be right to get him. Haven’t been steered wrong with his analysis. Hope they show it on the condensed game or video room.

Listening, did a perfect play get him, or should Joe not have sent him?

If he does that once every ten days, I’ll take it.

MVP LOL Totally awesome, glad to eat crow with that one.

Nice play there!

It’s clear in black and white who the child here in this exchange. Hope you work on your rage, and if you ever attack me again you quote actual posts, which are right here and were provided to you, twice.

I was at that game in a skybox, we were laughing our asses off, knowing full well the reference. Frazier and Eaton should meet in an MMA octagon for a White Sox roster spot.

The Ashley Rodon apology thread is the only valid apology thread here.

Damn, the Cubs gave up the lead. Sox will hopefully take care of business here.

“JOSEPHINE CREDE!!!” - Hawk Harrelson, 11 weeks ago. Congratulations. Cubs all over Bieber, though keep stranding runners. Up 2-1 in the fifth.

No Jake Lamb, no cry!

I gave you an opportunity to either apologize for lying, quote my post, or just move on. You stated I "claimed Ricky should still be manager". Baby's been lying.

I simply stated Ricky had a better record with less talent, vs. 2021's team with better run differential, without your cherry picking of this guy or that guy with you BS responses. You continue to lie and make up shit. Go through this thread, where am I stating this? I have multiple responses to you and not once stated this. Quote it or be an adult and apologize, or just move on.

Child please, I countered your weak ass factually devoid posts.

I'm waiting for the Sox to wake up Tony to post starting lineup staring Jake Lamb, will create it soon if he doesn't wake up by 3.

Neither point is true. A single run scored over 32 games is inconsequential. I used total pitching runs allowed, didn't cherry pick a subset of pitchers, which recognizes the entire staff. The starters are clearly better than the 10% runs overall runs allowed reduction. The 2021 bullpen digression, despite the fact they coughed up $18M for Tony's animal shelter pal, is included in what I did in fact recognize by comparing total runs allowed across the entire staff. The bottom line is the overall players, even with Robert and Eloy out and Abreu and Grandal being markedly worse, are overall better year over year, both "on paper" and on the field, through 32 games. And the whole point of paying two managers this season was Tony's Charlie Weiss like "schematic advantage" over Ricky Renteria, Soxtalk's consensus "worst manager in the history of baseball".

Its not just "paper" that the roster is better, performance has improved. Despite the dropoffs you point out, the performance of Yermin (1.005), Vaughn (.712) and others offset Abreu's decline and Eloy's complete absence. The White Sox have scored exactly one less run year over year (165 2020 vs. 164). The improvement is the pitching staff allowing 10% less runs, against better quality opponents (not just the weaker Central division teams) with a decrease in runs allowed from 123 to 111, year over year. This will be even more pronounced in the playoffs assuming everyone is healthy. Keuchel was a weak #2 last year with literally no #3. Ethan Katz' staff vs. Don Cooper's staff, not the year over year changes in the subset of hitters you pointed out, is the primary difference between the 2021 and 2020 teams through 32 games.

The only tough decision is after all three return (Lamb and Hamilton being the first two to go) and if everyone else is healthy and performing. The Sox can still keep everyone with 12 Pitchers / 14 Hitters (Bench: Yermin, Collins, Engel, Mendick and Garcia), the question is will they sacrifice a 13th pitcher if the entire team is healthy. Baseball typically has a way of working itself out. I'm hoping the rosters are increased to 27/28 next season with the new CBA, eliminating taxi squads and allowing adequate hitting and pitching depth.

Renteria had two starters, one worth a damn in the playoffs. No Kopech, Cease and Rodon were not solid, no Lynn. Eloy was on the DL twice and unavailable for the playoffs. Robert and Tim also missed time. Parrot and Mazara were completely worthless. Yoan was recovering from COVID and limited. No .380 hitting Yermin, no Vaughn. Anyone denying the significant talent upgrade between 2020 and 2021 is not paying attention.

It's a nice stadium, though cold into June and then after Labour Day. For the new stadiums, thought it was a good one (in my Top 15-20). Definitely worth hitting if tickets are reasonable with COVID pricing. Sat in the lower deck upper portion behind home, similar to Sox in terms of sightlines. The downtown train system drops you off right there, much cleaner than the Red Line to Sox games.

This comment is not pointed at you, but Ricky Renteria had a better record (20-12 after 32 games) with less talent at his disposal, and most here didn’t have the same standards and or provide the grace allotted to La Russa.

We can only speculate in terms of internal decision making, but I am giving Hahn credit for likely having serious conversation(s) with Tony last week when Hahn accompanied the team to Cincinnati. The Lamb LF platoon started the previous week ended. Mendick was brought up and given regular playing time. The starters seem to be better managed with Cease, Rodon and Lucas pulled before going over 100 pitches. Some people assume Tony is getting zero input from Hahn. Hahn may not be interceding at the same level as he did with Ricky, but he wouldn’t waste time traveling with the team if he wasn’t providing input to Tony. Would love to have been in on the discussion(s) after the Cinco de Mistakes 10th inning game.

Roster cuts should be Lamb for Engel, followed by Hamilton for Eloy or Robert. Mendick, Garcia, Engel/Eaton and Collins gives the team the most flexibility once everyone is back. If Yermin is still hitting, then Mendick is likely to go due to Leary’s ability to play all positions defensively, despite the much weaker bat.