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I’m going to listen to the entire press conference @Buehrle5687 so graciously posted in another thread before commenting further. However, I’m ok with what I’ve read here, and ok with making a special mention of Cooper due to his tenure and what appears to be the Sox wanting him out of that role, if not complete gone, while still retaining or not publically commenting on the remainder of the staff until the hiring process is complete. A new manager should be able to make his staff at that time, and the club either able to retain or announce the departures of the existing staff still under contract. I don’t want to see one or more coaches inherited without input, which occurred when Rick Renteria was hired.

DonCooper literally outlasted two, possibly three (world not sure if Kim Jong Un still alive) North Korean Supreme Leaders. Hope the White Sox will allow any new manager to replace ANY and ALL coaches, at his sole discretion.

Edit, have link to press conference.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2020/10/12/21513150/white-sox-expect-michael-kopech-at-start-of-spring-training This may be the best news out of the press conference, didn’t see a thread about it. “Zero mystery whatsoever,” Hahn said Monday. “We look forward to having Michael back with us come the start of spring training. He’s been in contact with primarily the minor league pitching coaches and sharing the program he was working on, getting their input on it. In fact, he recently reached out to recommend an individual who was let go by another organization as a potential add for us to our organization.” “So he’s obviously fully invested and committed and remains the same view of him as when we announced he was opting out of the season, that we still see his future as very bright and has the potential to be a very impactful arm for us for a very long time.” If anyone has a link to an archived press conference video or audio please post. I’m in Vegas and wasn’t able to listen. Thanks.

You left out the best part. Grandal's 2020 fWAR went up 0.4 this morning for his spatula framing.

Don't see the Front Office going to Frank Thomas, Ozzie Guillen, Steve Stone, or any other public detractor of Rick Renteria for advice. Besides Rick Renteria is the final card Rick and Kenny can play to buy a few more years if things don't pan out. They will hold onto that card as long as possible, no need to play it now after their first marginally successful season in decades. ' "Deep Thoughts" by White Sox "John Paxton" Kenny Williams, regarding "Big Frank": "He's an idiot. He's selfish. That's why we don't miss him" "We don't miss him, by the way, if you go out there and ask any one of my players or staff members, we don't miss him. We don't miss his attitude. We don't miss the whining. We don't miss it. Good riddance." "If he was any kind of a man, he would quit talking about things in the paper and return a phone call or come knock on someone's door. If I had the kind of problems evidently he had with me, I would go knock on his door."

But can he hug with his left arm?

When have the Marlins ever had any fans? Despite that fact, they still won two World Series as an expansion franchise, and may have a third before year end. Perhaps the White Sox will advance in the playoffs more than once in the next forty seasons. We can only hope.

Yeah, had to laugh when he was praising Sox ownership in late August, literally calling out the outlay of paying Jarrod Dyson over $200,000 to finish the season here as a major commitment on the Score. Was sad seeing him grovel without a contract last off-season when he went in attack mode over the "Jerry Reinsdorf carrot" revelation. Sad sycophant, then again, you can say that about many in Jerry's orbit. Can see why Ozzie loves Fidel Castro so much. Fidel developed the current core White Sox lineup, and played a major role in 2005. Far more than anyone Jerry has on his payroll. Steve Stone, Ozzie Guillen, Rick Hahn, Kenny Williams and his snitch Don Cooper. "Mayonnaise", though lacking youth or the possibility of redemption.

Theo will either step down tomorrow, or announce a transition plan to likely Jed Hoyer through next season. I agree with his philosophy that he and Bill Walsh regarding the need for change every 10 years. Sad that isn't the case on 35th and Shield.

Spellcheck won't save someone who does not know the difference between you're and your, principle or principal, their they're or there, etc..

Hahn, along with White Sox GM Ken Williams and chairman Jerry Reinsdorf collaborated on all important baseball decisions in Chicago. - 2010 The ten years leading up to the 2012 promotion, with "jack" in place for the next decade, was largely based on Hahn's input. Other teams raped the Sox dumping their washed up veterans that did nothing here once Hahn was promoted. See Tatis and Oakland "didn't do their homework" A's winning pitchers and #3 hitter. Theo pwned Hahn's ass in the two drafts he picked directly after, selecting Schwarber and Happ over Fulmer (Gone) and Rodon (Gone). The two areas Hahn has shown some level of success are no longer available, unless Jerry is still running things and keeping him for the next rebuild (tanking trades). Abreu and Robert came from international free agent signings, now capped after Jerry and his fellow "broke" owners had enough of bidding on these players and implemented the cap.

I liked Florida and Houston to advance before the series.

The one Tim Anderson taunted a few days earlier for "Not doing his homework".

Why are incorrect pronouns used here in most every post? Not directed at you, but the word "we" should only be in reference to fans. "We" do not play for, manage, coach or are members of the Front Office, beyond a few Rick Hahn/Kenny Williams burner accounts. We as fans want the White Sox to do well. We as fans have absolutely zero to do with playing, managing or operating the Chicago White Sox.

I rather have Mazara, and I really don't want Mazara but that may be the best the can do, hopefully at $2-3M as a DFA'd signing.

Not sure anything required "fixing", One thing I am certain of, a lineup of nine Nicky Delmonicos would have scored more than 1 run against the Florida Marlins over two games.

What a joke. ABC News throws a hissy fit and pulls the game with three outs to go.

I would disagree Cease had a "very rough year". He was 5-4, 4.01 ERA, 0.1 WAR, good at times, lacked command other times. He's also young for a starting pitcher (24) with 1 full season (26 starts) at the ML level. He has promise, and should be able to improve as he gains experience and works on gaining command. Dunning is a AA pitcher coming off of a major injury, who would have benefited from experience at the AAA level. He was thrown into the fire and had very good performances. Like Cease, he is young (25). In a perfect world, he would start the year at AAA and continue to learn his craft. Lopez is the one starter who took a step back this year and rightfully identified as having "a very rough year". Beyond his two solid outings at the end of the year (Det and at Cleve) , he was unable to gain command of his pitches. He has a lively arm, though he may never be able to live to his potential.

Good God, the staff was running on fumes entering game 3 of a potential 22 game playoff schedule, and after cutting the vast majority (102 games) off of the regular “season” schedule. The Sox will need enough innings to get through 100 more games just to reach a round one game three next year. A few existing pitchers will have innings caps. The FO is going to need to build or add a lot more pitching depth to attempt to compete for a World Series. Pitcher / Previous Full Season Professional Innings Pitched (year / level) Cease 141 (2019 AAA/ML) Dunning 144 (2017 A) Rodon 120 (2018 Mostly ML) Stiever 145 (2019 A) Kopech 140 (2018 mostly AAA) Crotchet 6 (2020 ML)

Jerry no longer oversees the Bulls. The White Sox will have a complete makeover this decade once a new managing partner and or new ownership group takes over. Rick Hahn inherited a .500 team (85-77) when hired as GM, and took the team 290-309 .447 in his first four years while he was "trying" (and failing) to win (2013-2016). His record trying was marginally better than Rick Renteria's record during three years of tanking + this aborted season (236-309 . 433). Rick Hahn hired Rick Renteria after an exhaustive 24 hour job search. Rick Hahn extended Rick Renteria's contract after 2019. Rick Hahn should not get a third bite at the manager apple.

The problem is, Lucas isn't the only one. McCann rCERA 2019 3 2020 3 Grandal rCERA 2019 -5 2020 -2 McCann cERA 2.82 Grandal cERA 4.74

The Sox are still beating Tatis Jr. 11 to 9 (4 runs 5 RBIs), though Fernando has last wraps with Game Three tomorrow.

Pretty sure how Jimmy and Harry would respond.

Yes, Chris Emma should stick with the fucking bears, and leave hot takes like that article to SoxTalk. #ChicagoCardinalsForever_ChicagoBearsNever