South Side Hit Men

Very nice, didn’t mind the work around if Donaldson. Twins should work around Eloy to start the inning.

His only redemption is he owns a glove, and is serviceable in RF. EE literally has no use.

Yes, why to do your thing Grandal. Make them pay Abreu.

Biggie biggie biggie biggie can’t you see sometimes your hits done hypnotize me

What did he say, I’m listening today.

Someone better than Parrot. Ditto Jake Cave.

Early, but time to pinch hit.

Work the counts and get him out before the seventh or eighth inning.

Great first inning for Cease. He is throwing all four pitches well tonight. Props to Ricky for holding him over to start today.

Way to battle Dylan.

I agree with your take, just don't think the Sox have the payroll or luxury of keeping their best catcher due to the other contract, unless you have Abreu taking significant games at DH. Then you have another player they are trying to placate, Jimenez, both injury prone and terrible in LF. It seems like Abreu is more open to DHing this year, though they need to field the best team, and with McCann and Grandal on the team and no corner substitute for Eloy, the best team is Abreu DHing and the Parrot doing pre-game promotions on a stick.

I see it more as an indictment over paying the highest contract in White Sox history to your second best catcher.

Oh, snap, now the cannon pointed at the other Rick. Money Mark @MarkMyWords35 37m Do you see any hope in the Sox being able to keep James McCann by resigning him in the offseason? Or should we consider this last stretch/playoffs as his swan song in a Sox uniform? Steve Stone @stevestone Replying to @MarkMyWords35 There is alway a chance. He is the best catcher we have in the organization so it’s a definite maybe

So cool, thank you very much! Does she ever say/scream "What are you doing, Wegner?" That would be cool.

Stone Pony laying on thick in the pre-game banter Jacob Shiner @jacob_shiner 45m Replying to@stevestone I was thinking the same thing. Grandal has started the other two games against Berrios and gone 0-6. Ridiculous. Steve Stone @steveston 39m You noticed that Patrick Thornton @MeatFriday Replying to @stevestone Well, there are only 14 games left so I guess it's good to rest the best hitters a lot. It's good to have at least 2 or 3 of the best OPS hitters sitting out every game. It's really important to get Mazara, Mendick, Sanchez, and Encarnacion a lot of at-bats. Really important. Steve Stone @stevestone 36m I like the take

Yes, would also love to see McCann catch Cease, with Grandal at 1B and Abreu DH. And Parrot should be hitting 7th at this point, unless Ricky is sending a message to Rick. Does anyone here recall the cartoons in 2006 with Ozzie playing a pirate and Hawk a parrot saying "Can of Corn" and his other cheesy phrases? This is the closest Encarnacion should get to the field Photos courtesy of http://www.scottietheparrot.com/portfolio/whitesox.htm.

When he got injured, he said he spoke with Jose Abreu who suffered a similar injury (see below). Jose was able to retain the power and the current weight allows him to play well and stay on the field. Burger looks like he lost some weight in recent videos, and said he is open to a transition to another spot. I like his work ethic and willingness to battle through two tough injures. I hope he can at least get healthy enough to contribute or gain trade interest if there is no spot for him here at the ML level. Burger chatted with White Sox first baseman José Abreu, who suffered a similar injury in 2008. "He was like, 'Look, man, it's a tough recovery, but you'll get back,'" Burger said. "He said he lost 30 pounds while going through it. I'm looking to that and looking forward to being back with my family for a couple of weeks."

Also, assuming Eloy can stay on the field continuing as a LF, he is definitely costing the team runs, wiping out a significant portion of his offensive production with his left field butchery, even with Robert covering as much of LF as possible. Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards 2019 22 CHW AL 122 504 11 2 -1 -11 -5 -5 -0.3 18 14 1.5 .496 .497 2.4 -1.4 25 $1,833,333 *7/D RoY-4 2020 23 CHW AL 44 184 12 0 0 -4 -1 7 0.6 6 13 1.0 .515 .504 1.5 -0.5 17 $2,333,333 *7/D 2 Seasons 166 688 22 2 -1 -15 -7 2 0.4 24 27 2.5 .501 .499 3.9 -2.0 42 $4,166,666 Defensive WAR per 162 games (DH starts excluded): Eloy Jimenez -2.06 dWAR/162 games Kyle Schwarber -1.14 (Includes games at catcher, which increased the negative dWAR) Dave Kingman -1.03 (Through 1980, before his DH/1B career stage) Carlos Lee -0.88 (A near gold glove LF compared to Eloy's first two seasons) Can Eloy stay healthy in LF? If the team works him out of his "I don't care if I get hurt" mindset. Can he get better in LF with continued work? Perhaps, he is still young. If he can stay healthy and improve, this would give the White Sox most value. Even getting to Kyle Schwarber / Carlos Lee capability would be a huge improvement. Is Eloy responsible for the vast overstock of DH/1B only players on the roster/in the pipeline? No, that would be Rick Hahn. Even if Parrot and McCann walk, the White Sox have several players/prospects vying for 3 positions over the next few seasons: Andrew Vaughn Eloy Jimenez Jose Abreu Yasmani Grandal Zack Collins Yermin Mercedes Jake Burger

It's not what we can or cannot live with, it's whether Eloy will remain alive or continue to get injured attempting to play left field. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/white-sox-eloy-jimenez-continues-to-run-into-things-in-left-field-and-that-should-cause-concern-in-chicago/ "I'm just trying to go play hard," he said. "If you see when I got hurt in the outfield, it was because I tried to do my best and just playing hard. I don't care if I get hurt in the outfield."

I agree. Konerko gave Reinsdorf his ball, and he proclaimed gratitude. For the chosen few that gave Reinsdorf both of their balls (Williams 1986, Cooper 1988, Hahn 2002(, they become are a friend and employee for life. That said, he will turn 90 in 2026, and will likely no longer serve as managing partner by then, either stepping down or passing. It's likely an outside partner purchases controlling interest when this occurs. since he owns the highest share total and the family has stated they have no interest in retaining their baseball shares. New owners may keep White Sox Gar Pax around for a year or two until they are ready to hire in their own people, but they will not have the same lifelong employment deal they currently enjoy.

You shouldn't look at it that way. The team looks at reality, which is the 2020 payroll is $50.2M, of which Reinsdorf and his fellow 29 "capitalist owners" squealed like pigs saying they would be rendered homeless if a second payroll cut beyond the game/pro-rated cuts wasn't implemented, that they would lose $640K per game, yada yada yada. Yes we knew they were lying, because their mouths were moving, but this 60 game / 16 team playoff farce is the result of the greed and avarice of the "caretakers" of the game. Cot's MLB Contracts: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C4dU46AiC_pt1GtzakmASUg9UD_UnpG32kdRZ3clOnk/edit#gid=1520401900 In 2021, the White Sox are scheduled to pay $80.3M for their top eight contracts (Grandal, Keuchel, Abreu, Anderson, Jimenez, Moncada, Robert & Bummer) plus buyouts (Cishek, Gonzalez, Garcia & Herrera), with 32 more players to go on the 40 man, including arbitration eligible players (Mazara, Rodon, Marshall, Sanchez, Giolito, Lopez, Fry, Engel, Delmonico). The White Sox are well double the current year payroll without player salary concessions, and they will likely be in the $110-$115M range with the current arbitration process, and without signing McCann, Colome, Mazara, Parrot, Garcia, Dyson or Detwiller, and not replacing them with anyone beyond the Major League Minimum Salary. People can post what they want, but the thought that they would bring back McCann at $18M, Bauer at his going rate, or any high price FA this year is not based in reality. Business are not open in large parts of downtown, these same businesses will be lining up to buy White Sox skyboxes? Many people are out of work, or making less than their previous salary. These people will be lining up to get into Comiskey? Restaurants and bars are operating at limited capacity. Comiskey will be open to 40,000 for opening day in six months? Most reasonable estimates are a vaccine will be offered sometime in 2021 at the earliest (Cy Young Award Contender Fauci said late 2021 the other day). Do people expect a change to current operating guidelines before then, or near unanimous production, distribution, acceptance and proven success of a vaccine in six months? That people will want to sit shoulder to shoulder in crowded stadiums prior to vaccine and complete eradication of significant health risk, likely not to occur for at least 1-2 years from today. The Sox do not have TV revenue to make up for loss of significant to all of their attendance revenue, they don't have an ownership group willing to take on any operating losses, regardless of the billions in capital and realized gains earned over 40 years, and they don't have an incentive to spend to jump a couple TV local ratings points. We will know in six months what normal will look like for 2021, but it is very likely to look more like 2020 than 2019, 2006 or any other year pre-COVID.

Rick Renteria was extended in November 2018 beyond the 2019 term. It's likely at least for two seasons (2021), since a one year extension is rare. Whether Hahn extends him for a second time this off-season remains to be seen. I'm not as critical as most of the board seems to be of Renteria. To me, a new GM needs to select a new Manager, in the event the White Sox do not capitalize over the next few years.

Nice work @y2jimmy0 ! Do you consider Micker Adolfo and or Blake Rutherford to be able to cover one or two of the current outfield holes (RF and LF - Move Eloy is a DH before he literally kills himself out there) able to be considered a regular outfielder by 2022?

Platoon Dyson now!!!

Touche