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Now that we have reached Opening Day, the lists below track 40 Man Roster transactions effective with Chris Getz' hire (interim 8/23, permanent 8/31/23). Would be interesting to know the last previous season, if ever, the White Sox have changed over half the 40 man between the final game of the previous season and opening day the following season. I will try to update the roster changes either annually or twice annually (end of season and start of following season) until Rick Hahn’s entire 40 man roster is purged. Heading into Opening Day, Getz has added 24 players to the 40 man roster. Only 19 of the players who remain on the 40 Man Roster (16) or 60 Day MLB IL (3) were added by Rick Hahn (see subsequent post). Final Month + Offseason Transactions (8/23/23 - 3/28/24) 24 Total Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Player Acquisitions (7) Free Agent Signings 12/13/23 SP Erick Fedde (31) - NC Dinos 12/28/23 RP Tim Hill (33) - San Diego 12/30/23 SP Chris Flexen (29) - Colorado 1/5/24 C Martin Maldonado (37) - Houston 1/26/24 SP/RP John Brebbia (33) - San Francisco 3/24/24 LF Kevin Pillar (35) - Atlanta 3/28/24 RP Dominic Leone (32) - Seattle (3) Promotions to the 40 Man Roster 11/14/23 SP Jake Eder (26) - AA Birmingham 12/20/23 SP Josimar Cousin (25) - AA Birmingham 3/28/24 RP Jordan Leasure (25) - Chicago White Sox (1) Rule 5 Draft 12/6/23 SP Shane Drohan (25) - Boston (12) Trades 11/16/23 SS Braden Shewmake (27) - Atlanta 11/16/23 SP Michael Soroka (27) - Atlanta 11/16/23 SP Jared Shuster (26) - Atlanta 11/16/23 SS Nicky Lopez (29) - Atlanta 11/28/23 SS Paul DeJong (31) - Atlanta 12/9/23 C Max Stassi (32) - Atlanta 2/2/24 OF Dominic Fletcher (26) - Arizona 2/3/24 OF Zach DeLoach (25) - Seattle 2/3/24 RP Prelander Berroa (25) - Seattle 2/27/24 RP Bailey Horn (26) - Chicago N. L. 3/13/24 SP Jairo Iriarte (22) - San Diego 3/13/24 RP Steven Wilson (29) - San Diego (1) Waiver Claims 10/3/23 RP Alex Speas (26) - Texas 23 Total 40 Man Roster Player Departures 8/23/23 RP Brent Honeywell (29) Designated for assignment. Sent outright to Charlotte 8/25/23. Elected Free Agency 10/10/23. Signed Minor League Contract with Pittsburgh 2/12/24. 9/4/23 C Seby Zavala (31) Designated for assignment. Arizona claimed off waivers 9/6/23. 11/2/23 C Yasmani Grandal (36) Elected Free Agency. Signed Minor League Contract with Pittsburgh 2/14/24. 11/2/23 SS Elvis Andrus (36) Elected Free Agency. Signed Minor League Contract with Arizona 3/3/24. 11/3/23 OF Clint Frazier (30) Sent outright to Charlotte. Elected Free Agency 11/6/23. Remains unsigned. 11/3/23 OF Trayce Thompson (33) Sent outright to Charlotte. Elected Free Agency 11/6/23. Signed Minor League Contract with the New York Mets 12/13/23. 11/3/23 RP Liam Hendriks (35) Elected Free Agency. Signed with Boston 2/20/24. 11/3/23 SP Mike Clevinger (34) Elected Free Agency. Remains unsigned. 11/4/23 SS Tim Anderson (31) Elected Free Agency. Signed with Miami 2/24/24. 11/16/23 RP Aaron Bummer (31) Traded to Atlanta for P. DeJong, N. Lopez, B. Shewmake, J. Shuster & M. Soroka. 11/28/23 CF Adam Haseley (28) Designated for assignment. Sent outright to Charlotte 12/1/23. Elected Free Agency 12/10/23. Remains unsigned. 11/30/23 RP Nicholas Padilla (28) Sent outright to Charlotte. 12/8/23 RP Edgar Navarro (25) Sent outright to Charlotte. 12/20/23 RP Luis Patino (24) Designated for assignment. San Diego claimed off waivers 12/22/23. 12/28/23 RP Declan Cronin (26) Designated for assignment. Houston claimed off waivers 1/4/24. 12/30/23 C Carlos Perez (27) Designated for assignment. Sent outright to Charlotte 1/4/24. 1/5/24 3B Zach Remillard (29) Designated for assignment. Sent outright to Charlotte 1/10/24. 1/26/24 3B Romy Gonzalez (27) Designated for assignment. Boston claimed off waivers 1/31/24. 2/2/24 RP Gregory Santos (24) Traded to Seattle for P. Berroa & Z. DeLoach. 2/3/24 RP Lane Ramsey (27) Designated for assignment. Sent outright to Charlotte 2/8/24. 3/13/24 SP Dylan Cease (28) Traded to San Diego for J. Iriiarte, D. Thorpe, S. Wilson & S. Zavala. 3/26/24 SP Touki Toussaint (27) Sent outright to Charlotte. 3/28/24 RP Sammy Peralta (25) Designated for assignment. 5 Total Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Players In-n-Out RF Tyler Naquin (33) Promoted from Charlotte 9/26/23. Released 10/3/23. Remains unsigned. SP Jose Urena (33) Promoted from Charlotte 9/9/23. Elected Free Agency 11/2/23. Signed Minor League Contract with Texas 1/10/24. RP Yohan Ramirez (29) Claimed from Pittsburgh 9/5/23. Traded for Cash to the New York Mets 12/18/23. SP Cristian Mena (22) Promoted AAA Charlotte 11/14/23. Traded to Arizona for D. Fletcher 2/2/24. CF Peyton Burdick (27) Claimed from Baltimore 2/23/24. Designated for assignment 3/13/24. Baltimore claimed off waivers 3/16/24. 1 Total Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Players Out-n-In RP Bryan Shaw (37) Elected Free Agency 11/2/23. Signed Major League Contract with the White Sox 3/28/24.
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Free Agents and Spending Teams Remaining
South Side Hit Men replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
With Josh Donaldson’s $25M contract plus potential $25M 2025 player option, these 24 remaining free agents are within 24 hours of Opening Day without a contract. Four Former White Sox (10) AMERICAN LEAGUE BOSTON (1) — Adalberto Mondesi, ss. CHICAGO (1) — Mike Clevinger, rhp. DETROIT (1) — Matt Boyd, lhp. KANSAS CITY (1) — Zack Greinke, rhp. LOS ANGELES (1) — Aaron Loup, lhp. MINNESOTA (2) — Dallas Keuchel, lhp; Donovan Solano, 1b. NEW YORK (1) — Zach McAllister, rhp. OAKLAND (1) — Drew Rucinski, rhp. TORONTO (1) — Brandon Belt, 1b. (14) NATIONAL LEAGUE ARIZONA (3) — Evan Longoria, 3b; Mark Melancon, rhp; Tommy Pham, of. ATLANTA (1) — Brad Hand, lhp. CHICAGO (1) — Brad Boxberger, rhp. LOS ANGELES (3) — Jimmy Nelson, rhp; Alex Reyes, rhp; Julio Urías, lhp. MIAMI (2) — Johnny Cueto, rhp; Yuli Gurriel, 1b. MILWAUKEE (1) — Darin Ruf, dh. PITTSBURGH (2) — Jarlin García, lhp; Vince Velasquez, rhp. SAN DIEGO (1) — Rich Hill, lhp. -
They still must add at least one player to the active roster (need a pitcher for a 13/13 split), could add a second by placing Drohan on the IL. The have 40 plus 2 on the 60 day IL, could add another if Drohan placed on the 60 vs. 15 day. Keeping with the D’s, DeClan Cronin made the OD bullpen for the Marlins.
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Sheets and Benintendi were on State and Lake handing out free hot dogs at 10AM. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2024/03/27/free-hot-dogs-fans-white-sox-players-surprise-opening-day-baseball-2024 “Who doesn’t want a hot dog at 10 a.m.?” Sheets asked reporters Wednesday. All the free CPS tickets for the weekend and Monday have been claimed. Need to keep up these promotions especially geared toward kids and families to try to reclaim the next generation of city baseball fans.
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2024 Ownership Tanking Thread
South Side Hit Men replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The question is will they spend some or any of the savings next year once these two deals off the books? They could have traded Cease and Benintendi to the Dodgers or Mets for lower end prospects, and either could just DFA’d Benintendi and not batted an eye financially to acquire Cease. This would have left the Sox with just $33.5M guaranteed in 2025 ($15M Robert, $7.5M Fedde plus Yoan ($5M), Eloy ($3M) plus misc. $3M (Brebbia, Stasdi, Hendricks) with a shot at a $50M-$60M payroll from 2025 forward just cycling through league minimum guys. As it stands, they might not cross the $100M mark the rest of this decade without a change in ownership or substantial sustained progress which will eventually draw fans back to the ballpark. The only good out of this is the Sox did acquire several good prospects who might help them later in the decade. -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
South Side Hit Men replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Congratulations! Have you moved to the city, or the suburbs? Regardless, I hope you and your family enjoy your time here and are prosperous, perhaps over generations like many of us including my family. There are only two households left in the city (My Aunt and I), with two more in the far NW/N suburbs. I understand and in some ways sympathize with the pro-stadium(s) support. I also don't want the Sox to move. I'm more absolutist in terms of preserving lakefront space, which will not be undone if it ever happens (Star Wars, Bears), but do sincerely believe we all benefit, even White Sox fans with no tax skin in the game, to make sure this is done right, including financing, infrastructure and the stadium. So much was poorly thought out / disclosed / honestly conveyed in regards to Comiskey Park II, primarily due to the fact Jerry basically controlled the whole project. This includes major mistakes which the city/state/taxpayers spent hundreds of millions of dollars to rectify, and a decade plus experiencing substandard conditions as fans, primarily in the UD but also just the sightline toward the RT Homes vs. Downtown. I'm glad there may be at least one grownup in the room which will hold significant aspects of the construction and financing to reasonable review and approval, assuming this ever gets done. While I personally rather have the team stay at 35th and Shields, and thrive under new ownership, I do realize I am in the minority on a White Sox fan board, but believe I'm in the majority in terms of Chicagoans who call this place home. -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
South Side Hit Men replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
A portion does, as do a significant portion norm by businesses who pay for lodging for visiting out of area employees and customers. Also hurts the ability of convention business with Chicago losing significant events over the decades in part due to higher costs here including taxes. City and State taxpayers are also paying for all the shortfalls in the bullshit tax revenue projections used to sell these schemes. Tens of millions each year and growing. Also on the hook for what are permanent taxes (like the toll booth which were supposed to be short term - yeah right), and are on the hook for the half billion plus in unpaid debt, since these taxes are not even covering interest only payments Plus all property tax payers subsidize these two entities who pay zero property taxes. So to answer your question yes, city and state taxpayers shoulder a significant burden even before the shortfalls based on lies used to sell these billionaire welfare handouts fall short. Your city was also sold a bag of lies with their NFL deal, and you and your community will continue to pay the price as long as you live in Nashville, regardless of whether you go to games. -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
South Side Hit Men replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Stadiums are an expense to be shifted/minimized. Development around the stadium (hotels, bars, restaurants, residential real estate) is what create long term profits for teams, especially if the can reduce or eliminate associated sales tax, real estate tax, other taxes their competitors must pay. Johnson will give them a blank canvas. He is the scheme’s Pedro Grifol in terms of being a junior partner, having little final say, and being well beyond his element in any aspect of his job. Pritzker might end up being an obstacle, but hopefully he will remain firm. Friends of the Parks will certainly be an obstacle. Meadowlands II and the new Los Angeles stadium are the lone two privately owned NFL stadiums. Both have significant events being in by far the largest metro areas. Also, Los Angeles County / City isn’t handing out free stadiums like our politicians, and also received significant infrastructure subsidies. East Rutherford gave the Giants/Jets a sweetheart lease in terms of property taxes, land (they profit on parking for all events and other uses year round), and also state subsidies for hosting events like the upcoming World Cup. If either had government offering billions with little rights lost in the process the teams would have snapped those up faster than Billy Hamilton. Arlington Heights, they won’t have the same drawing power in terms of musical acts and other events LA and NYC can pull off. Will also be hard to staff beyond the 10 Bears games due to lack of demand for low income jobs and lack of transportation or proximity to low income workers. The city holds this advantage over any other location, plus existing transportation infrastructure the entire region can access to reach downtown. Arlington Heights has a single Metra line. -
2024 Ownership Tanking Thread
South Side Hit Men replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
A 50% increase in 2024 over 2007 equals a 0% increase in spending in terms of inflation adjusted dollars. So while Oakland is the lone team which decreased spending in actual dollars, six additional teams including the White Sox have decreased spending in inflation adjusted dollars in 2024 vs. 2007 payroll. Decrease in inflation adjusted spending 2007 vs. 2024: 73% Oakland 47% Baltimore 34% Detroit 21% Boston 19% Seattle 17% Chicago A. L. 2% Cincinnati -
They don’t need to do this, as he merely needs to avoid being on the Opening Day active roster to avoid the QO tag next offseason. The Diamondbacks are planning to keep him training for a few weeks before activating in the second half of April. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/diamondbacks-to-sign-jordan-montgomery.html The terms to vest the players option, assuming he would want to exercise at year end, is 10 starts ($20M vested), with an additional $2.5M vested at 18 and 23 starts. I’m glad the asshole Yankees wimped out. While I’m typically critical of MLB owners, kudos to Arizona ownership for getting this done.
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
South Side Hit Men replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The Bears will be far more effective blocking that from ever reaching the ballot than they are blocking NFL defenses. Also, no way Johnson will ever permit this, especially after voters rejected his real estate tax referendum on the ballot last week. That was for a mere $100m estimated revenue. Chicago and State taxpayers will possibly face over $10B in total costs across both projects between upfront costs of $3B-$5B plus a far greater sum in bond interest payments over generations (minimal 30-40 years of interests payments, plus unpaid debt like the ISFA faces over 35 years after its creation). -
March ******* (Basketball Thread)
South Side Hit Men replied to Texsox's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I followed Men's as a kid and young adult, but gave it up 30 years ago beyond filling out the office bracket pools using Sagarin ratings until about 15 years ago. Just no interest in CBB / NBA since the early 1990s. Really just down to the Sox at this point, and the Expos if they were ever resurrected. I've only watched/listened to three WBB games ever, all three this year (first two Iowa tournament games plus the Lincoln 3A championship because SIL went there and it was their first State title in anything, It's a different style of play, closer to watching a boys HS game. Based on graduation rates, much more close to the student athlete model than the Patino/Calipari one and done nonsense CBB as turned into. Think it's good for women's sports to gain exposure, and don't see much of a difference in terms of time commitment or interest required to watch men's vs. women's sports. -
Certainly won’t help with the flabs of fat gun pouch situation at the old ballpark.
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March ******* (Basketball Thread)
South Side Hit Men replied to Texsox's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
The site I used for the point spreads and seeding seems to be updated weekly, doesn’t have games posted since Saturday. This site updates daily, and provides both the percentage odds of winning and a predicted score. Saw the pros (getting a lot more fans) of hosting first two games at home and cons (only three non home teams one, two of the three were basically pick’ems with Duke the one substantial underdog which escaped). Even Middle Tennessee State wasn’t a first round upset, just poor seeding bias for Power Conferences and against mid majors. Here are the updated Massey odds for the Sweet Sixteen: East Region: 1 South Carolina 78.23% 75 4 Indiana 21.77% 68 2 Notre Dame 61.93% 68 3 Oregon State 38.07% 63 South Region: 1 Texas 71.78% 73 4 Gonzaga 28.22% 65 2 Stanford 62.37% 70 3 NC State 37.63% 65 Midwest Region: 1 Iowa 61.51% 80 5 Colorado 38.49% 75 2 UCLA 46.86% 70 3 LSU 53.14% 72 West Region: 1 USC 46.62% 66 5 Baylor 53.38% 68 3 UConn 74.46% 68 7 Duke 25.54% 59 % Odds to Win Championship 31.43% South Carolina 14.88% UConn 8.38% Stanford 8.28% Texas 7.43% Iowa 5.79% LSU 4.24% UCLA 3.83% Notte Dame 2.92% Baylor 2.64% NC State 2.58% Indiana 2.16% Colorado 2.06% USC 1.47% Duke 1.04% Oregon State 0.86% Gonzaga -
157 on possibly the final season of NBC Sports Chicago. 2024-2025 broadcasts effective October 1, 2024 are to be determined. Three of five remaining games will air over the air on FOX (7/27 6:15 PM vs. Seattle ; 8/10 6:15 PM vs. Chicago; 9/7 6:15 PM at Boston), with the remaining two broadcast for the few who have it on Apple TV (4/26 6:40 PM vs. Tampa Bay & 5/24 6:40 PM vs. Baltimore). Additional national games for late season / September Flex Game changes TBD. In terms of the home schedule, the heavy dose of early season & school day games will not help Jerry or attendance this season. Weekday = Monday - Thursday Day Games; Weeknight = Monday - Thursday Night Games; Weekend = Friday Night + Saturday Any + Sunday Day Games + Memorial Day Day Game. 50 Home Games CPS School in Session [Weekday 8; Weeknight 18; Weekend 24] 17 March / April [Weekday 4; Weeknight 5; Weekend 8] 3 Each (Detroit, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Tampa Bay) + 2 (Minnesota) 15 May [Weekday 2; Weeknight 6; Weekend 7] 4 Each (Cleveland & Baltimore) + 3 Each (Washington, Toronto) + 1 (Minnesota) 8 August [Weeknight 3; Weekend 5] 3 Each (New York A. L. , Detroit) + 2 (Chicago) 10 September [Weekday 2; Weeknight 4; Weekend 4] 3 Each (Cleveland, Oakland, Los Angeles A. L.) + 1 (New York N. L.) 31 Home Games CPS Summer Break [Weekday 4; Weeknight 13; Weekend 14] 13 June [Weekday 1; Weeknight 6; Weekend 6] 4 (Boston) + 3 Each (Houston, Los Angeles N. L., Colorado) 12 July [Weekday 2; Weeknight 4; Weekend 6] 3 Each (Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Kansas City) 6 August [Weekday 1; Weeknight 3; Weekend 2] 3 (Texas) + 2 (New York Mets) + 1 (Detroit)
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American League Central Detroit 85-77 Minnesota 82-78 (No wild card) Cleveland 76-86 Kansas City 71-91 Chicago 66-96 American League Playoffs: #1 Texas; #2 New York; #3 Detroit; #4 Houston, #5 Baltimore; #6 Toronto National League: #1 Los Angeles; #2 Atlanta; #3 Chicago; #4 Philadelphia; #5 New York; #6 San Diego World Series: Atlanta over New York
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No, he is only guaranteed $180K plus a pro-rated (x / 172 calendar days) $1M for the days he is on the active or IL MLB roster starting Thursday. His incentives start at $50k for 175 PAs with $50k more for every 25 more through a max of $50K for 350 ($500k total). Will be tough unless he somehow manages to hold off Fletcher, Colas, Grossman, Sheets (Sox's choice) for a substantial number of starts this season. Late inning defensive substitutions won't help toward his incentives. Think he'll be happy just to stay on the Sox or another team's active roster for the entire season to lock in his full vested retirement benefits.
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Montgomery will sign shortly after Opening Day, in part to ensure he is not subject to a QU next offseason. Beyond the NRI players released or opting out Friday, Greinke and Pham are the two without deals I thought would have deals this season. Clevinger not surprising due to baggage. There is still time for the Sox or another team to add depth / replace injured pitchers with Cueto, Hill, Syndergaard, Boyd, others.