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Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
South Side Hit Men replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Lineup the last time the White Sox were 27 games under .500. Please note the Sox had all but two players at the end of the game under with an under .700 OPS. Tonight they only had two over .700. Ryan LaMarre, who I never heard of until this post, had the lone extra base hit (Double) for the White Sox. Despite this accomplishment, Ryan was pinch hit for my Nicky Delmonico. September 4, 2018 8 Detroit (56-83) over 3 Chicago (56-83) * Position / Player / H-AB / Season To Date OPS SS Tim Anderson 2-4 .719 3B Jose Rondon 1-4 .818 DH Welington Castillo 0-4 .741 1B Matt Davidson 1-3 .799 C Kevan Smith 1-3 .680 PH-C Omar Narvaez 0-1 .796 2B Yoan Moncada 1-4 .701 LF Ryan LaMarre 1-3 .716 PH Nicky Delmonico 0-1 .709 CF Adam Engel 0-4 .607 RF Ryan Cordell 0-3 .000 SP Lucas Giolito 1 1/3 IP 5 R 4 ER RP Hector Santiago 2 2/3 IP 1 R 0 ER RP Jeanmar Gomez * 1 2/3 IP 0 R RP Aaron Bummer 1 1/3 IP 1 R 1 ER RP Ryan Burr 1 IP 1 R 1 ER RP Thyago Viera * 1 IP 0 R Note - Colorado also tied the Sox with the same record (48-75) after the loss tonight Note * - Also never heard of Jeanmar Gomez or Thyago Viera until this post. -
When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sounds Good. Skylark Pre/Post Sox Game (Can buy you two tree drinks / cocktails) Revolution Brewery North Side (Can bring BYOF great Chicago food - La Villa Pizza and or Bob-o-rino's subs) Just completed a beer trade this afternoon (12 received from the Northeast including Treehouse, Notch & Fiddlehead) on my lone other active Social Media account (Beer Advocate). -
Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
South Side Hit Men replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
With this loss, Colorado takes the all time series lead 11-10. Teams the White Sox are under .500 (includes Post Season) .278 Arizona 5-13 (-8) .364 Washington 8-14 (-6) .409 Philadelphia 9-13 (-4) .421 Saint Louis 16-22 (-6) .438 New York N. L. 7-9 (-2) .440 New York A. L. 860-1093 (-233) .473 Toronto 204-227 (-23) .476 Atlanta 10-11 (-1) .476 Colorado 10-11 (-1) .484 Houston 46-49 (-3) .486 Los Angeles N. L. 18-19 (-1) .490 Los Angeles A. L. 377-392 (-15) .490 Boston 958-996 (-38) .496 Detroit 1105-1122 (-17) Source Two White Sox highlights this evening: 1. Tiny E steals home. 2. Luis "Not a Leader" Robert Jr. homers again -
Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
South Side Hit Men replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Dylan Cease too valuable to risk injury. Trayce Thompson (.619), Gavin Sheets (.647) and Zach Remillard (.640) the other options. Grandal is finally an elite option for the White Sox. -
When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There were always relief pitchers in baseball, they just didn't take over half the game as they do now. Each league had 8-10 teams, 16-20 in the sport. And the league pennant winners, based on the regular season, played in separate leagues who did play each other, in October. Back when people cared, not because of what they wore to the game. What does "nine inning" mean? Have you been out in the Texas sun too long today Tex? -
Tony was better than Bevington, I'll give you that. Tony's HOF is based on Jerry placing him in Oakland/Saint Louis, not his mediocre record here. The White Sox had 42 managers and 11 are in the Hall of Fame White Sox Managers > .500 Winning Percentage .592 462-293 Fielder Jones 1904-1908 (1906 World Series) .581 157-113 Clark Griffith 1901-1902 (1901 AL Pennant - No WS Played) .578 339-247 Pants Roland 1915-1918 (1917 World Series) .565 179-138 Marty Marion 1954-1956 .564 840-650 Al Lopez 1957-1965 & 1968-1969 (1959 AL Pennant) .551 258-210 Gene Lamont 1992-1995 .529 18-16 Miguel Cairo 2022 .529 406-362 Paul Richards 1951-1954 & 1976 .525 124-112 Bob Lemon 1977-1978 .524 678-617 Ozzie Guillen 2004-2011 (2005 World Series) .521 174-160 Eddie Collins 1924-1926 .519 392-364 Kid Gleason 1919-1923 (1919 AL Pennant) .515 500-471 Jerry Manuel 1998-2003 .515 250-235 Jeff Torborg 1989-1991 .513 678-644 Tony La Russa 1979-1985 & 2021-2022 .513 78-74 Billy Sullivan 1909 .511 206-197 Eddie Stanky 1966-1968 .509 222-214 Terry Bevington 1995-1997
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When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Different time indeed. People cared about baseball, baseball cared about people. Regular season mattered, best four teams featured until wild card / interleague bullshit. World Series Television Ratings Year + Average Viewers (1973 First year with average viewers listed in wiki link above; Population Count for start of decade - 1970 census paired with 1973 World Series, 1980 with 1982, etc.) 1973 34.8M / 203.4M (17.1%) 1982 38.1M / 226.5M (16.8%) 1992 30.1M / 248.7M (12.1%) - Canadian Team Involved 2002 19.3M / 281.4M (6.9%) 2012 12.6M / 308.7M (4.0%) 2022 11.8M / 331.4M (3.6%) -
2023: MLB news not AL Central-related
South Side Hit Men replied to caulfield12's topic in The Diamond Club
Carson Kelly was claimed by Detroit, but the Sox have another opportunity for a catcher at the ML minimum through 2024 with the Cubs waiving Tucker Barnhart. Think he would be a good fit to mentor Seby or Lee, help with the staff as well. Doesn't appear to hit anymore, but that is not important for 2024. -
When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I believe the Cubs invented the concept of a Winter fan convention a couple decades ago. Before that, perhaps you remember from real time or via reading Bill Veeck's books that he would travel across areas / small towns for dinners and other speaking engagements during the Winter to drum up interest in his teams during the offseason. What Veeck and other good marketing folks knew is the fact that television and media coverage was good, helps sell interest in the team, helps sells tickets. The Wirtz and Reinsdorf clans are on the opposite end of that spectrum. The McCaskey's are the only one that televises their product for everyone. Correspondingly, they are the only team the general public cares about and follows, though this has more to do with league policy and contracts and less to do with their business acumen. Like Hahn, the "children" in their 60s / 70s are another example of it's the person that matters, not their "impressive" Ivy League credentials. -
Dodgers have completely overhauled Lynn pitch mix
South Side Hit Men replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He has a 1.26 FIP difference between the Dodgers (3.94) as here (5.20). He's pitched against bad offenses, has a much better defense behind him and likely gives a s%*# whereas he didn't here unless someone made him bend down and pick up a bunt. -
When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Funny, these assclowns couldn’t sell 60,000 tickets the last game they played. Even the National Felon League has limits of what fans will tolerate. https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/1/2/22864133/by-their-absence-bears-fans-show-dissatisfaction-with-ownerships-sorry-course-mccaskeys-ryan-pace Smaller capacity helps better ensure the not quite “sellouts”, not to mention the tens of thousands who don’t bother to attend another garbage game / season. At least season ticket holders can recoup some of their losses selling tickets to Green Bay and other opponents fan bases. I assume Jerry pockets SoxFest Promotional funds despite him and fraud Boyer not having the courage / balls to hold it and face the music for three years running. They have already announced they have something planned other than SoxFest to “celebrate the fans” this Winter. I assume it includes a remote feed of Jerry flipping off fans, players and mankind. -
When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Likely be done with it. Jerry helped kill my other favorite team, the Montreal Expos. Would be fitting if killing the White Sox was his final act. -
Exhibition football played by a team leaving Chicago trumps "Championship Regular Season" White Sox baseball. Sad. The Sox will have multiple bumped games the rest of the season: 9/10 at Tigers - likely bumped for Bears Pregame 9/17 vs. Twins - Bumped 9/24 at Boston - likely bumped for Bears Pregame 10/1 vs. San Diego - Bumped
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I want Pedro to stay until both he and Hahn go out as a package. Hahn has zero qualifications to hire another manager, and I don't care if Jerry was 100% to blame with La Russa. Under no circumstances should Hahn get another rebuild, or another few years to see if yet another manager "makes things right". A qualified GM needs to hire a qualified Manager for the first time in decades on the South Side.
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When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This, and if they or any team leaves the city for Bedford Park, Charlotte, Texas, Idaho, Bumfuck, Egypt or anywhere else, they are dead to me. The second tier American Football League (MLS) built a stadium nobody wanted to go to, DePaul basketball played in a half empty Horizon, before returning to Chicago in an attempt to regain relevancy. Minor league teams like the Wolves or the minor league baseball teams work out there because they are only drawing a few thousand people. I'm sure the Bears will still sell well for the several games they play each season, but it will be interesting to see how general interest sustains or declines as time goes on away from the city. The same as seeing if interest is sustained with the four "major league" Chicago teams that pulled all their games off of terrestrial television to a dying cable platform. Out of sight, out of town, out of mind. -
Whatever a Scoop Jackson is, that article is awful. You know where leadership starts? At the top. Jerry's slumlord provisions didn't include kitchen areas, players had to eat 7/11 or McDonalds. Was also far away from the stadium with no transportation. His leadership is the anthesis of the Dodgers, which is why they are thought to be the premier organization in MLB, and the White Sox are considered to be among the worst two or three organizations in MLB, perhaps in North American sports. The Dodgers Way The White Sox Way https://theathletic.com/3404269/2022/07/13/white-sox-minor-league-housing/
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Based on run differential (Sox -107, Detroit -102) and expected record (50-72), AJ Hinch could be considered seven wins better than Pedro Grifol through today. https://www.mlb.com/standings/2023-08-18 Detroit 55-67 White Sox 48-74 Doesn't exactly correlate, but could see the Sox with a similar 55-67 record if Hinch was in charge. Then again, could see the Sox with a 70-52 record with Andrew Freidman or Erik Neander in charge over the past several years.
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When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
South Side Hit Men replied to jasonxctf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Acres of parking lots and a free Section 8 stadium is what Jerry wanted, they rejected all other designs. It equates to max profits in his brain, same as fielding second place teams ad infinitum. -
No, just one of five DH/1B they need to convert to prospects with everyone else. He's in his 30s, good chance out of baseball the next time the Sox have a legitimate contending team. Need to get as many prospects as possible over the next 12 months, have a new FO have a road map to compete in 2026 or 2027.
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Meh. This version is not a starting outfielder regardless where he bats. Can't even be a reserve outfield because of his week arm. People were excited because he bats left handed, but you can't play a starting corner outfielder to hit a couple HRs and .700 ish OPS. People b**** about Moncada, but he had two great seasons (4.0 and 5.5) here for $66M total including the post 2024 buyout. Don't see Benintendi getting more than 5,5 fWAR over a full five seasons / $75M, with minimal upside potential.