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8/15 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Give Benintendi an extension! Beat these motherfuckers! -
8/15 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Peak Sox apathy with the game thread flipping to page two after the game becomes official. Yoan has nine hits (9 for 22) over the past 5 1/2 games. Hope Yoan and Tim finish strong, are fully healthy in 2024 and can contribute / be flipped if the Sox commit to tanking again. -
If a relationship started when they were both minors (17 / 14), puts it in a different light. The DR has a stricter age of consent law (18) than most states here (as low as 13 in ten states, 16 in a majority of states). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
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8/15 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Per gameday, that umpire was complete bullshit in the Colas at bat, starting with the called first strike well outside the zone. Could have blown open the game right there. OK working around Bellinger there. -
8/15 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Nice start today, hopefully Touki can keep the ball in the yard his final 3-4 innings. Yoan is looking healthy the past week, James Fegan wrote about it this weekend. -
8/15 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Tim returns to the lineup with the nine starters Rick Hahn proclaimed would compete for a 2023 World Series Championship. -
Jeff Loria goes after Mark Buehrle, Jeter, others
South Side Hit Men replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
1994 and subsequent destruction of Les Expos de Montreal should never have happened. Montreal vs. Chicago would have been epic. -
Jeff Loria goes after Mark Buehrle, Jeter, others
South Side Hit Men replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It enhances his status. As much as I like Jerry, I like Loria even more. Hands down the worst MLB owner in my lifetime, and I do remember the Marge Schott era. Kudos to Joe Girardi for telling Loria to “Sit down and shut the hell up.” -
Yep. Nico Hoerner, Shane McClanahan, Brady Singer, Logan Gilbert and Jonathan India are the Top 5 in bWAR through Monday. https://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?year_ID=2018&draft_type=junreg&query_type=year_round&from_type_jc=0&from_type_hs=0&from_type_4y=0&from_type_unk=0
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They will bring in more overall revenue if the stop the bleeding and retain fans who have been loyal in the past. I have hope because Kenny stated he won't return once his contract is out (2023 or 2024), and the fact Jerry media (CSN Garfien / Ozzie, Nightengale) are taking shots publicly at Hahn throughout the year. Jerry will likely keep Hahn, but hopefully in a crony "adversary" role like he is doing with Paxson.
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I'm hoping he pitches well, at minimum stays healthy, the final two months so that he opts out himself and the Sox pay nothing. After the "Gold Digger" debacle, it's clear he has no contrition or sense of decency, and like Trevor Bauer he is not a human being you want in an organization regardless of on field talents. I'm only following non-Clevinger starts this year because I'm giving Hahn and the organization the benefit of doubt that their incompetence of not conducting a background check was honest, and hopefully a lesson the organization improves on a go forward. Hahn's comments post trade deadline indicate player character will be prioritized in future transactions give me hope they are earnest.
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Much of the angst over this trade in particular is the organization was being vague about their direction. Hopefully the trade is a win win for both teams over time. Unfortunately for Jake Burger and Burger fans, he was the only position player in demand at the deadline. A majority of fans will accept a well thought out and communicated plan by a new FO this offseason, with a FO in place by end of WS, new manager by mid November to allow playoff team candidates, and a honest 2024 and three year plan. Admit mistakes, take care of your die-hard season ticket holders with a significant ticket price decreases for long term goodwill (20% for ST, 10-15% for individual ticket sales), lower parking to $25-$30. Bring back season ticket perks (Bring back on the field days, give them a buffet spread, have special bobbleheads or other giveaways. Bring back SoxFest with the new FO and Manager, and start promoting the good players and people you already have beyond Liam. The Sox have a chance for a fresh direction, fresh management and a fresh start. Will they take advange? Current 2026 Potential Core Players (Player (2026 Age)) Infield: C Quero (23); 1B Vaughn (28); 2B Sosa (26); 3B Ramos (24); SS Montgomery (24) Outfield: RF Colas (27); CF Robert Jr. (28); LF Benintendi (31); DH Jimenez (29) Reserves: C Lee (27); INF Rodriguez (25); INF/OF Gonzalez (29) RH Pitchers: Burke (26); Cannon (26); Garcia (27); Leasure (28); Mena (23); Nastrini (26); Pallette (25); Patino (27); Santos (27) LF Pitchers: Bush (26); Crochet (27); Eder (27); Schultz (23)
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I just hope she doesn't have a two year old child (or any child) as has been alleged in reports.
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Perhaps @Quinor someone else who follows the minor leagues closely can note players the Sox should protect for the Rule 5 draft, but there are a several players the Sox can toss to free up room for next year, plus a few pitchers if push comes to shove. Departing Free Agents Clevinger ($4M Buyout - Please don't keep this guy) Grandal Hendriks ($15M buyout - Unless they take the option / add a 2025 extension) Expendable Guys C. Frazier A. Haseley C. Perez Z. Remillard G. Sheets T. Thompson That said, I would like to see the Sox add Billy Hamilton to the 40 man in September and call him up for a start or two and proper send off, especially if he plans on retiring after the season. Dan, not Edgar. RIP Eric Lowen.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
South Side Hit Men replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Are you the keeper of the Chicago White Sox Doomsday clock? Do you have any leads as to the lucky city who will steal from their men, women and children and future generations of unborn children to give Jerry yet another free stadium? Will The Big Guy get his standard 10% kickback? Gotta hurry before everyone dies. -
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/white-soxs-romy-gonzalez-undergoes-labrum-surgery.html Didn't see this anywhere here. Romy is expected to be ready for Spring Training. His last game was June 17, he is eligible for the MLB minimum through 2025. What time is the White Sox Doomsday Clock after this injury @Texsox? 1 minute 'til midnight?
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2023: MLB news not AL Central-related
South Side Hit Men replied to caulfield12's topic in The Diamond Club
Think Carson Kelly would be a pick up for the Sox to get them through the rest of this and possibly next season until prospects arrive. He is 28, a solid defensive catcher, Arb 1 eligible (likely $4M-$5M range) and he could possibly be flipped for something decent next July if he can return to being an average offensive catcher. Neither Perez or Grandal are legitimate catchers at this point. Would hate to rush either prospect and screw up their development,. Carson and Sevy are cromulent enough to handle the staff, perhaps Kelly can help some of the young pitchers. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/nl-west-notes-diamondbacks-yaz-haniger-luciano-profar.html -
Now do Lynn.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
South Side Hit Men replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And Left Field should be the easiest spot to fill beyond 1B and DH. GM Rick Hahn Acquired 2.0 + bWAR Seasons (2.0 = Average League Starter): 44 Total Seasons by Position: C 2 1B 9 2B 1 3B 3 SS 6 LF 1 CF 5 RF 2 DH 0 SP 13 RP 2 Acquisition Method: Trade 16 International Free Agent 12 Domestic Draft 9 Domestic Free Agent 7 Players: 9 Jose Abreu (1B 9) - 10/29/13 International Free Agent 6 Tim Anderson (SS 6) - 6/6/13 1st Round Draft Selection (17th overall) 3 Adam Eaton (CF 2; RF 1) - 12/10/13 Trade 3 Lucas Giolito (SP 3) - 12/7/16 Trade 3 Luis Robert Junior (CF 3) - 5/27/17 International Free Agent - Includes 2023 (4.8 YTD) 2 Dylan Cease (SP 2) - 7/13/17 Trade - 2023 Possible (1.6 YTD) 2 Yoan Moncada (3B 2) - 12/6/16 Trade 2 Carlos Rodon (SP 2) - 6/5/14 1st Round Draft Selection (3rd overall) 1 Aaron Bummer (RP 1) - 6/7/14 19th Round Draft Selection 1 Melky Cabrera (LF 1) - 12/16/14 Free Agent 1 Johnny Cueto (SP 1) - 4/8/22 Free Agent 1 Todd Frazier (3B 1) - 12/16/15 Trade 1 Avisail Garcia (RF 1) - 7/30/13 Trade 1 Leury Garcia (2B 1) - 8/11/13 Trade 1 Miguel Gonzalez (SP 1) - 4/6/16 Free Agent 1 Yasmani Grandal (C 1) - 11/21/19 Free Agent 1 Liam Hendriks (RP 1) - 1/15/21 Free Agent 1 Dallas Keuchel (SP 1) - 12/30/19 Free Agent 1 Michael Kopech (SP 1) - 12/6/16 Trade - 2023 Possible (1.4 YTD) 1 Reynaldo Lopez (SP 1) - 12/7/16 Trade 1 Lance Lynn (SP 1) - 12/8/20 Trade 1 James McCann (C 1) - 12/19/18 Free Agent 0 Mike Clevinger (SP) - 12/4/22 Free Agent - 2023 Possible (2.0 YTD) 0 Gregory Santos (RP) - 12/22/22 Trade - 2023 Possible (1.7 YTD) 0 Jesse Scholtens (RP) - 12/20/22 Free Agent - 2023 Possible (1.4 YTD) -
8/13 White Sox vs Brewers, 1:10 PM CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Capn12's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Sources for important White Sox News: Obituaries SoxTalk Chicago Newspaper Sports Sections Jerry Reinsdorf Owned media outlets -
This very well could be Rick Hahn's worst acquisition ever in terms of contract and value. Albert Belle he is not. Sox fans focus on the holes at Catcher, Second Base and Right Field, but Left Field has also been a black hole during "Ozzie Ball" and Rick Hahn eras. Nicky Delmonico was six starts shy of claiming the top spot (76 games in 2018, minus 1.0 bWAR). Worst Primary * White Sox Left Fielder seasons (1901-2023) bWAR Player Year / Total Games Played (Age; Career bWAR) -0.9 Juan Pierre 2011 G 158 (33; 17.3) - Ozzie Ball -0.9 Tommy Davis 1968 G 132 (27; 20.4) - Another bad Sox vs. Dodgers trade -0.6 Carlos Quentin 2009 G 99 (26; 10.5) - Post break hand season -0.4 Ducky Holmes 1905 G 92 (36; 9.2) - Ducky? LOLz -0.3 Scott Podsednik 2006 G 139 (30; 6.9) - Ozzie Ball -0.2 Jimmy Callahan 1912 G 111 (38; 24.9) - Out of MLB baseball from 1906 (Age 32) through 1910 (Age 36) 0.1 Bibb Falk 1921 G 152 (22; 22.7) - 22 Year Old replaced Shoeless Joe Jackson banned by Commissioner KKK Landis 0.1 Andrew Vaughn 2021 G 127 (23; 0.8 - still active) - Rick Hahn did that 0.3 Juan Pierre 2010 G 160 (32; 17.3) - Ozzie Ball 0.3 Carlos May 1974 G 149 (26; 10.5) - Lone bad White Sox season 0.3 Al Smith 1958 G 139 (30; 20.9) - Replaced Legend Minnie Minoso - Lone under 1.9 bWAR White Sox season (1958-1962) 0.4 A. J. Pollock 2022 G 138 (34; 22.3) - Rick Hahn did that 0.4 Andrew Benintendi 2023 G YTD 110 (28; 16.2) -Rick Hahn did that 0.5 Bibb Falk 1922 G 152 (23; 22.7) 0.5 Patsy Dougherty 1910 G 127 (33; 17.8) 0.6 Ron Kittle 1984 G 139 (26; 4.7) 0.6 Dayan Viciedo 2013 G 124 (24; 1.1) - Rick Hahn did that 0.7 Rip Radcliff 1935 G 146 (29; 9.0) 0.7 Carlos Lee 1999 G 127 (23; 28.3) 0.7 Jimmy Callahan 1911 G 120 (37; 24.9) 0.8 Alejandro De Aza 2014 G 122 (30; 7.2) - Rick Hahn did that 0.8 Dave Nicholson 1964 G 97 (25; 0.5) 0.8 Pat Seerey 1948 G 95 (25; 4.0) 0.2 Ron LeFlore 1981 G 82 (33; 18.0) 0.9 Ralph Garr 1977 G 134 (31; 14.8) 0.9 Ralph Garr 1978 G 118 (32; 14.8) 0.9 Melky Cabrera 2017 G 98 (32; 20.6) - Traded 7/30 - Rick Hahn did that Note *: Minimum Games Played in Left Field greater than 50% of total White Sox games played.
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8/13 White Sox vs Brewers, 1:10 PM CT
South Side Hit Men replied to Capn12's topic in 2023 Season in Review
I root for the Sox if listening / watching, but if they lose I am not upset. The Sox need to win six more games (6-38 .133) to avoid the worst winning percentage in White Sox history. They need to go 18-26 (.409) to finish over .400. White Sox seasons below .400 Winning Percentage .325 1932 .336 1948 .346 1970 .349 1934 .366 1931 .383 2018 - A Rick Hahn Production (62-100) .388 1929 .389 2013 - A Rick Hahn Production (63-99) .390 1950 .398 2023 - A Rick Hahn Production (47-71 YTD) .398 1976