South Side Hit Men

Playing peacekeeper. Eloy should have been fined for that jig he did.

Roid rage.

TLR did the opposite of what was expected beyond his treatment of rookies. Tony wanted to be grandpa and the veterans to love him. The players took advantage, with several players openly mocking him six weeks into the season. Then again, there was a lot to mock. Still glad he made it out of here in better shape physically and mentally, based on his final press conference, than how he looked and spoke his entire tenure. Glad he didn’t die trying to salvage Jerry’s dysfunctional organization.

He and others in that organization’s true colors emerged over the past year plus. Players and the manager I previously held respect for, despite being Sox rivals, have been exposed. Sox teams must keep this in mind when they face Cleveland in the future.

The bottom line is he and everyone else went along with the program established by Jerry and his C-Suite. In my eyes this has been going on since Ozzie’s final year or two, and has now encompassed five full time and multiple interim managers. The majority of the posts here are coming after the players or manager, which is fine, but the problem originates and can only be remedied by changes in ownership, KW, RH, BB and the others at the Board and Officer level. Yet, there is still time.

This reflects even more poorly on Gossip Girl Middleton. He's not man enough to say or do anything about it while here, but instead went and gossiped like a little b**** to the New York media the day before the Sox vs. Yankees series. In a way he is worse than Keuchel and his mommy running to the media to throw teammates, coaches and managers under the bus, or Lynn literally pointing fingers and pouting at players and coaches when his overpaid worthless ass s%*# the bed the one game that mattered, and sucked his entire extension. Should what Middleton mentioned be occurring with the White Sox? Absolutely not. Is Middleton correct saying this starts at the top? Yes. Has the Board or Officers been held to even a tiny level of accountability over the past decade? Absolutely not. Should everyone at the Board Level, Officers and Baseball Operations be s%*# canned immediately, if not sooner? Hell To The Yes. $54M 1.1 bWAR over three Seasons $36M Extension Negative 0.6 bWAR over two seasons Half of these people are near death, incompetent, incontinent, or 2-3 of these conditions. All 14 need to go for this organization to get a legitimate clean slate. Board of Directors Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf Board Member Robert Judelson Board Member Judd Malkin Board Member Allan Muchin Board Member Jay Pinsky Board Member Lee Stern Board Member Burton Ury Officers Senior Executive Vice President Howard Pizer Executive Vice President Ken Williams Senior Vice President/General Manager Rick Hahn Senior Vice President, Administration Tim Buzard Senior Vice President, Stadium Operations Terry Savarise Senior Vice President, Chief Revenue and Marketing Officer Brooks Boyer Senior Vice President, Communications Scott Reifert

I agree, but that was not the right way to broach the issue. The lack of discipline goes to the C-Suite. Nobody should be fighting or choking subordinates, especially your top management. Jerry not only tolerates it, but excuses/condones and possibly encourages it with zero consequences. Middleton is right, it starts at the top.

I joined here at the end of August 2020, and didn't understand where all the bashing of Ricky came from. Then I saw many links and quotes here of Jerry's asshole studio crew and Stone's twitter account. People are easily persuaded by corporate media, including MLB owner's paid broadcasters. It sounded like a ruse orchestrated by Jerry to open up a job he promised to Tony. Ricky should have been given the final year of his contract,. Rick Hahn should never have been allowed to stay and sign another manager.

Yep. Ricky is the only manager in the Hahn era who instilled any sort of discipline or accountability on the team. Before him, neither Robin Ventura or Rick Hahn could handle a 13 year old child, had to call Daddy Kenny in to resolve the situation which led to a team schism. Jerry should have fired Kenny, Rick and Cooper after Kenny nuked Ozzie's authority of his DRs by extending Kenny's clubhouse snitch Cooper behind Ozzie's back, despite having an agreement to jointly evaluate the coaching staff after the 2011 season. Kenny, Rick and Robin should all have been fired in 2015, certainly in 2016. Then again Paxson should have been fired for choking Vinnie Del Negro, Ditto Kenny's "heated exchange" with Greg Walker. This culture is Jerry Reinsdorf's MO. He cherishes it, keep the rubbish beneath him fighting each other so they don't raise a spear at him. https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/3/9/2038527/john-paxson-bulls-vinny-del-negro https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb/news/white-sox-gm-kenny-williams-has-heated-exchange-with-hitting-coach-greg-walker

You're on record supporting Cleveland players "right to disrespect the White Sox" as they trash the White Sox on numerous occasions, including the latest with this punk waiving his finger in Tim's face. Doubt Tim or anyone else on the team is looking for your support. Race indeed.

It was a classless as Jerry calling Harry Caray scum in the 1983 locker room. It's a time for celebration, not for indulging in petty grievances while exposing your classless aura to the world. Then again I'm not surprised at the vocal core here who would rather defend the disgraceful Cleveland franchise over supporting Tim Anderson and other Chicago White Sox players.

Yes, Sox fans are numerous and will support a winning team and an owner committed to fielding a good team. SportsVision and the threatened move to Tampa started the slide. Jerry doubled down with the 1994 Jerry driven owner World Series cancellation during the Sox' best chance in decades, followed by the White Flag debacle. All of this destroyed a large portion of fan goodwill, and all these incidents were self-inflected wounds. The team bounced back after the World Series, but has never recovered long term. New ownership willing to embrace of the community at large and repair the relationship with core Sox fans driven away by Jerry can restore parity in our area given enough time and effort. White Sox Attendance 1900 - 1979: Cubs 65,230,018 vs. White Sox 60,763,825. Difference of 4,466,193 (55,827 annual difference) White Sox Attendance 1980 - 2022: Cubs 105,015,114 vs. White Sox 77,832,373. Difference of 27,182,741 (647,208 annual difference) White Sox Winning Decades: 1900s (+409,347) 1910s (+1,547,181); 1950s (+2,594,526); 1960s (+2,033,725) Source: Baseball Reference, 2020 excluded in terms of annual difference calculation (42 year denominator).

Another player two letters short of class. Celebrating is one thing, taunting a being a bag like Josh Naylor or Joe Kelly the other day brings bad karma and usually comes back to haunt the player and team. Didn't advance in the Division series, hope the Dodgers flame out this postseason as well.

Have they treated a single injured player correctly the past few seasons? I can’t think of a single one among the team’s top players.

It’s sad that memories of Floyd Bannister are sullied by your user name. I can’t recall a single positive post of yours.

The Cleveland franchise has disrespected the game and mankind for nearly all of its existence, far more than this nonsense spewed by Jose and Tito. They also disrespected the White Sox a few months ago, which nobody should forget or take sides over the White Sox and their players. f*** the White Sox - Jose, Tito and the rest of these losers said it, and continue to be assholes through Jose wagging his finger in Tim’s face.

NBA economics are not the same. Revenue streams are largely driven by national television contracts. Home schedules and stadium capacity are less than fourth net of what MLB teams seek (NBA stadiums host half the games and have on average half the capacity). Also player payrolls are very similar across the league, another reason Jerry wants his family to keep the Bulls and sell the Sox. An NBA move to Oklahoma would work, whereas an MLB move to Oklahoma would not. Oakland’s threatened move to Vegas (or Jerry’s to Tampa) - will get less revenue long term in Vegas than if they accepted the reasonable deals offered in the Oakland area. Many of these owners have a short term mentality, looking to cash out while there are still billionaires looking to join the club, and sad politicians looking to sell out their constituents. Jerry and Eddie are responsible for a decline in Sox fan interest due to several schemes they cooked up in the 1980s and 1990s. The Sox actually had a slight attendance advatage during the first eight decades, with the depression era and the late 1960s - early 1970s the two primary exceptions within that span. Billionaires obviously see Chicago as a place worth investing based on this deal and the large hotel complex noted in the article.

Keuchel gave up 10 baserunners in 5 innings, but managed giving up only one run before departing after 5 innings. I hope Arizona hangs on to win. Quintana took the loss, but pitched well giving up 2 runs over six innings while the Mets were shutout 2-0. Bassitt and Toronto won in a laugher 13-1, with Bassitt going 7 strong innings at Fenway Park. Go San Diego!

Season Series Wins Atlanta 2-1 Cincinnati 2-1 Cleveland 8-5 Season Series Leads Boston 2-1 (Away September 22-24) Detroit 4-3 (Home September 1-3; Away September 8-10) Kansas City 4-3 (Away September 4-6; Home September 11-13) New York Yankees 2-1 (Home August 7-9) Additional Season Series Win Possibilities Arizona 0-0 (Home September 25-27) Baltimore 1-2 (Away August 28-30) Colorado 0-0 (Away August 18-20) Minnesota 3-6 (Home September 14-17) Oakland 1-2 (Home August 24-27) San Diego 0-0 (Home September 29 - October 1) Seattle 1-2 (Home August 21-23) Washington 0-0 (Away September 18-20) Season Tie Possibility Chicago 0-2 (Away August 15-16)

He's undercut by Jerry between the orders not to draft 16 year olds and the perennial trading of International Draft Slots. Paddy signed Robert Jr. and Abreu, who combined have earned more White Sox Win Shares than the rest of the current organization combined. 2023 Luis Robert Jr. 4.4 vs. All Other White Sox Position Players including Burger 0.4. White Sox Career Abreu (27.6 - 12th All Time) and Robert Jr. (11.0 62nd All Time - Definite shot at Top 10 if Jerry and Hahn don't get rid of him). If a Sox fan is listening or watching, I can't see a person actively rooting against the team. It's more of a defensive posture to take solace in losing and perhaps hope a terrible year end record could possibly lead to a significant organization overhaul, though that likely won't happen until there is a new owner. The Sox are likely better off not getting a top pick in 2024, but rather in 2025 due to both the prospect class and the better possibility Jerry and or Hahn will be gone further out.

They say you gotta stay hungry, hey baby, I'm just about starvin' tonight.

Hahn "Muti Championship Window" Acquistion Edition: Parrot, Cesar Hernandez; Clevinger.

Thank you @oldsoxfor setting the White Sox on their winning ways and leading the game threads to a series win, and hopefully beyond as the Sox play spoilers to the hated New York Yankees tomorrow.

Sure Anderson doesn't feel good getting punched yesterday, but this pathetic piece of s%*# was the manager who lost to the Chicago Cubs in the World Series, the most embarrassing event ever in sports. Breakfast with the Beatles and Tito is eating crow.

Revenge is always sweet. 1948 bitches.