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Agreed. Maybe temporary

I like the logic and analysis exercise, but I read this, raised my eyebrows, and took a long sip of coffee. I wish I had an actual newspaper to shake instead of a laptop https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-plan-to-move-aaron-judge-to-center-field-after-juan-soto-trade-can-work-at-least-in-2024/amp/

Our fan base is bordering on apathetic. Definitely despondent. I would agree that if Jerry wasn’t tone deaf, he wouldn’t be dumping salary and players right now, adding rather, but it’s pretty fucking obvious that he is tone deaf. And I have rarely met a prospects rebuild that I didn’t like. And your take that our consternation doesn’t point to Jerry selling is not very observant. It points to selling to the point we’re almost driving the Sox to the airport and truck terminal.

What’s this, Judge in CF? Alllrighty then…

WE DID IT! ??

Cut payroll, dump players, to what end? After the draft, even the benefit of tanking is out. The fanbase is up in arms over years (now decades) of poor managment, and bad publicity. The response is to make the team even worse? They want to sign a bunch of seat fillers instead of longer term solutions. If there was any time to try and mend fences with fans, and spend a little assets for the on-field product, this is it. Jerry Reinsdorf thinks it is time to go to Nashville. I don't understand what is happening at the height of fan discontent. Typically teams cut payroll before they are sold. Not while languishing in desperate need for lifelines. It's just bad business.

there's only a few owners with Jerry's pathetic record of big contract spending. I doubt the next owner would run the team the same way with antipathy towards superstars

‘A Fedde’. Known nomenclature substitute for ‘A Reinsdorf’. Understood to be a typical substitute for a real aquisition.

Eloy’s and Zach Lavine’s. That means, it is time to enter the trade market in Chicago. I can’t imagine Cease’s value is anywhere near where it should be to make it a smart trading time either.

Getz was in player development until 2021.

If the Sox are so impatient to get a deal done quickly, expect a disappointing outcome. They gotta be willing to pull Cease off the trading block, and trade him at the deadline. The sharks probably smell weakness and inexperience. Maybe they even smell a Cease decline. In which case, yeah, the Sox have to rush the deal. But that's an easy read for the league then. Do you expect to see top offers? I don't. Not until Cease is back on the bump, shutting teams down.

Snapshot in time. I believe Getz was serious about defense. In a rebuild, you acquire assets, and fine tune for fit later by converting those assets into other parts.

DEAL!

Maybe we can throw in our first round pick as an incentive

Shirley seems to have been driving the high round picks the last few years. The only way I can reserve judgement on a very Kenny type pick.

If we are concerned about fit, I wonder what the pursuit of Norby would be saying about the "high floor" second base/SS prospect we just drafted. If it's just about gathering available asets, cool.

Only if the Sox are surmising that recent negatives on Cease are real issues that can snowball out of control the more time passes. If not, you wait it out until you get what you want, or saddle Cease up until the trade deadline, and let him recoup his value “ his ERA more than double from 2.20 to 4.58. Cease’s velocity dipped by a mile per hour, his strikeout rate fell three percentage points, and he yielded far more hard contact than he did during that elite 2022 campaign.

Possible. Morosi would have to pay a price for taking clicks pay. There’s a capital sum that is spent. We know the usual suspects that report things now and people roll their eyes.

Also, I’m not sure how close Morosi really is to Getz, if Morosi is being used as a mouthpiece of disinformation.

Aha! Sanity prevailed.

Interesting. FWIW, the multiple prospects return is preferable provided the floors are likely. Regret the names we are talking aren’t carrying superstar ceilings. If you want the superstar ceiling, you only get the one prospect 1 for 1. In general I don’t understand why the Sox want to do this at a time of the offseason where the least amount of pressure exists for the other teams to fill out their rotation. The Sox are playing a weak hand, and not optimally. The normal expectation might be to expect the high price not to be met, and for a team to be forced to wait until spring when the pressure ramps up for those that missed on free agency. But we are talking about the White Sox here.

At this point, the Sox just need assets in the organization. A center field asset is a need in general, and a good commodity. If the Sox are indeed pursuing valuable assets, that has to be enough with the state of things.

The relatively bad year Cease had may mean something, may not. But it definitely will cause other teams to hold onto their most elite prospects for him. We will be getting the less brighter. And I say again, if the Sox are truly rushing this process, they are degrading the ultimate returns.

The Sox probably think they can scout by reading scouting publications and using their typical evaluation process to subsist, rather than investing in quality to their own scouting department. Whatever the Sox know, other teams know more. Yeah yeah, I know the Sox might have paid lip service to some sort of change in MO. Whatever it is, Jerry Reinsdorf won’t let it be anything but substandard. The Sox are now going to stop letting other teams poach their own talent, and smoke the Sox in prospect trades all of the sudden, for sure.