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It wouldn’t be weird not stopping by to visit. For all intents and purposes, this manager was a huge failure. And for all intents and purposes, would have been fired from any other team that didn’t have a weirdo owner. Do most failed and fired managers “stop by and visit” the old squad in spring training? Granted, he still ostensibly is still a part of the organization because again, Jerry Reinsdorf is a weird and dysfunctional sports franchise owner. But it certainly wouldn’t be weird for him not to be there. Not ever. I think we all would go on with our lives never asking why Tony LaRussa never stopped by and visited.

I’ll do my best.

They are extremely few and far between anymore. The majority of the fanbase seem at odds with the organization, but the organization has not had any regard for it. Most front offices/ownership do endeavor to try and hit their layups with the fans. Not on the Southside.

It’s just, Jerry freaking Reinsdorf. Hopeless.

Baby steps equals big progress for this franchise.

There are people out there that will move to a new city, and will subsequently begin rooting for the new team. I mean, these are people I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them.

It’s not the losses that are aggravating enough to lose patience with following the team. I can live with endless failures of execution. But I can’t watch endless intentional brain dead philosophical stupidity.

wellI actually for a brief moment I successfully detached from following the team anymore after the great James Shields aquisition. It finally dawned on me this franchise wouldn't ever pursue, keep or aquire top tier young talent except by accident. And as an old man you begin to learn how to stop doing things to hurt yourself. But then they suddenly began aquiring top talent in the minors by tradeing sacred cows, and plain ole out hustling other teams in a couple cases. Threy pulled me back in with young prospect baseball. Pursued top level free agents! Very un Sox-like, We. Were. A. Normal. Organization. (Kindof) But, you knew JR had to start making them weird again, and so I'm sliding into limbo again. We'll see.

What’s gonna make him different than Thyago Vieira is the situation.

I would do it just for even prospect value. The Sox aren’t getting a second baseman, they aren’t serious about the season anyway

And we can’t possibly trade Hendricks because the Sox are trying to win this year lol

Sheets is not an outfielder. Don’t start that option stuff

i generally understand your points, and largely agree. But I think we're at least in the parking lot of the ballpark. Known quantities are worth a lot, so Eloy and Hendricks are getting a little undersold here. The Mets are offering 1 known quantity and a prospect, albeit a big one. Deals get feasible when one side is highly motivated. Cohen is a madman.. Just a matter of fleshing this out. Shoot for the moon, and the Batys of the organization become a lot more doable.

The number one prospect and Michael Kopech was acquired for Chris Sale, but I wouldn’t quite call Hendricks and Eloy as valuable as Chris Sale was. Eloy should be eminently tradeable in a deal like this. I wouldn’t expect Hendricks and Eloy alone to get a deal done for Alvarez (with McNeil), but assuming the owner is having a voice in the process, he seems to light fires under his people to facilitate all-in acquisitions right now. This owner is a wildcard that might upend conventional wisdom

If those were the bones of a deal, guys like Vera, Mena, assorted prospects would be surrounding the bones. I would be surprised if Alvarez was available no matter what.

just fyi, that machine is broken

Eloy might be involved in something like that

Sure. Katz will throw a velo belt around him, done deal.

After all we have been thru, I’m stone cold amazed that some media and fans are ok with trading for a first baseman prospect

This is probably the way the White Sox should be approaching efforts to change the trajectory and makeup of the team though, by putting Eloy in a deal. But the return that guy had coming to the Sox definitely lends to this being completely made up.

Well that escalated quick?ly

If I may, he only said that a deal that is mostly for salary relief would not be a good one. Not that he is hearing about a salary relief deal.

Oh. Well the Sox need to move higher up the list. Evgen if they have to expand the deal. If they do it for another first baseman, are we serious? Keep Hendricks ffs

If they do a deal just to do a deal, more fuel to the fire to be mad at this team. Deal isn't worth doing without a helpful prospect like Mauricio at least.

Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 35 | Arm: 60 | Field: 45 | Overall: 50 The Mets took a 17-year-old, bat-first shortstop in Vientos in the second round of the 2017 Draft. After signing him for $1.5 million, the organization put him on the slow road with stops at Rookie-level Kingsport in 2018 and Class A Columbia in 2019. He showed classic signs of a power bat waiting to bloom before the 2020 pandemic forced him to continue his progress at the alternate training site and fall instructs. His big breakout came at last in 2021, when he hit .281/.352/.581 with 25 homers over 83 games at Double-A and Triple-A, and he was added to the 40-man roster as a result. It’s scary to think what kind of heights Vientos’ home run total could have reached in 2021, had he seen a fuller season that wasn’t so impacted by coronavirus delays and cancelations. He’s slugging above .500 again in 2022, making the most of his significant strength at Triple-A, but he’s also striking out more than 30 percent of the time again while also posting a groundball rate close to 50 percent, a regression from previous trends. The raw power will always make Vientos a middle-of-the-order threat, but his overall hit tool could limit that impact. Vientos’ plus arm works at third base, but his glove and actions aren’t nearly at the same level. The Mets worked him out in left field in 2021, and as of now, early reports aren’t encouraging that it’s a solid fit. He has gotten more looks at first base this season, and that’s his likeliest defensive home if and when he isn’t DHing.