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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
All you Leake'rs, nice option. Like him. Not sure if he'd be any cheaper though. At least a half dozen of these guys will probably sign for basically the $ give or take a mil unless Q takes a discount with Sox. Hopefully they find the one who outshines the rest. -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
His era kept improving through his full SP years; 15 through '17 until TJ. For most of that time, Richards' velocity was zero! Too many meaningless analytics. Just give me they guy who's best at keeping runs from crossing the plate over the longest # of innings vs his salary. -
Jose Quintana...Signs with Angels (1YR 8M)
Rounding_Third replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Is it just my perception or isn't notorious for getting ahead early in the count then picking at and missing the edges until 6-7 pitches later 2-2 & 3-2 counts? If so, this seems like it could be easily corrected by STOP DOING THAT! -
Jose Quintana...Signs with Angels (1YR 8M)
Rounding_Third replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
2018 gives me glimmer of hope. If not SP, maybe give him a shot at long R. But if he's traded, I'd get over it quickly. Added: if he's traded and does well then no fault to RH. ReyLo got chance after chance. -
Jose Quintana...Signs with Angels (1YR 8M)
Rounding_Third replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This. I'd throw SH Asdrubal Cabrera in there too; a cheaper version of La Stella (2/3 discount) with good power from left side. -
Jose Quintana...Signs with Angels (1YR 8M)
Rounding_Third replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
ReyLo's so very interesting. He's got the stuff. Sone day its going to click for him. Sox and others know it. It makes him good trade material and good to keep. Obviously, I'm right down the middle with him. -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Not necessarily, I think I'd give that tag to Walker. Given both had TJ, Walker's younger and similar resume. Not sure going back 5-7 years ago with Richards, after all his arm trouble (bicep nerve shuts down bicep from working - crazy), is all that useful for measuring reward. -
Jose Quintana...Signs with Angels (1YR 8M)
Rounding_Third replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Me too. Sure would be great if he would take a bit of home town discount so we could squeeze La Stella in, too. -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think we're the same here. I don't want him because of his limited innings and extreme injury history. That's why his risk/cost ranks #1. -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why's that? Besides, $10m for a month or two? What? -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sort that list by risk factor/cost and he's #1. -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What's his spin rate the last 5 years after 70 innings? -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Does Arrieta appeal to anyone? -
Are the White Sox "done" making moves until spring training?
Rounding_Third replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Roster resource as good as any payroll site, I guess. The have it sitting at $131.5m. But they also estimate 5 TBD pre arb guys, Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, Foster, at $9m. Based on 2020 examples of same types, that correct pre arb $ total should not be more than $4.5m. Therefore, the actual payroll should currently stand around $127m. if I got that right (kind of fuzzy with this payroll stuff), they better have more to do. KH, don't tease the $130m-$140m number, if you really meant $125m-$130m. There are holes to fill and money to do it with. Do it ASAP for SP. It's the hottest part of the market right now. Could be a flurry and who would be left? Get your man, now! -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
However they do need a future 1B...... -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Agreed on Richards, too much medical stress on that arm over 5 years. Has a reasonable chance to be DL'ed by June. Not a good way to spend $10m, too risky with so many other options available. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I guess we'll continue to disagree. The strategy of poker is to win the night, not the hand. You can win the hand and still lose the night. Same applies to Sox. You have too much tunnel vision to understand my point. -
Hector wrong. Again. - Cruz back with Min
Rounding_Third replied to fathom's topic in The Diamond Club
With ya, makes more sense to judiciously spend the remaining budget to get a SP & DH combo, which means a lesser DH than Cruz. And La Stella is 2 roles of the price of one. After SP is signed and if not enough for La Stella, a cheaper version is Astrubal Cabrera do be the same duel role guy; a solid SH with good LH power And, not as critical but still smart, I would like to see a backup C. At only ~$2m, an astute tactical move. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You and I also debated this "all in" definition a while back, too. You seems to be locked in that it must mean this 1 year. To me, it means a 3-5 year window to be, on paper at least, a top end WS favorite for that time frame, beginning this year. It's a living, breathing, evolving process to stay there. I agree keeping a few aces up their sleeves to keep it going beyond this year is essential; $'s & prospects (for play or trade). Spending ~$140m this year is "all in" for a mid-market team in these uncertain times. JR is really taking a huge risk; respect & grateful to him for OK'ing it. Dealing a couple/few prospects can mean it too, if their return is key players for all or parts of that window. The main idea is that "all in" is more than just 1 year. Maybe we're saying the same thing. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yeah, he had the surgery in 2016 then some weird biceps nerve issue in 2017 that kept him out 5 months, then the TJ in 2018. Lots of harm done to that arm. IDK! -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The 5 TBD pre arb's are: Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, & Foster = est $9.128m -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Richards scares the crap out of me. He hasn't thrown 100 innings since 2015. At ~$10m, his cost/risk factor seems awfully high. I'm afraid he'd be DL'ed by June. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Nice site. But they have the pre arb est (TBD) for the 5 guys at $9.1m. That's got to be too high. Half that maybe? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Throw out 2020. He can be wild and give up some dingers but still eats innings at a decent era. He has a few blowups most mostly has solid outings. If has a good showing Tuesday, there'll be a lot of interested teams. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What makes you think that?