Rounding_Third

true enough, unless maybe in package....Castillo? Just dreamin!

I'm being picky, if I had preference, would want a righty. Figure Grandal would get his rests mostly against lefties with our potent righty lineup.

Oh interesting. Still $4.2m for 2021 but could get Reds to take some of it. He'd be a damn good backup, for sure!

The dude is a starter and due to make $7.5m in 2022. It doesn't smell right.

Yeah, they could really finish off the roster nicely for another 25-30m!

One report I saw right after Lynn & Eaton deals had their 2021 payroll ~$17m below 2020's. They should be able to sign Liam, LH DH, SP, and vet C for < $25m, an increase of ~$10m over last year. Get er done!

He and Avila made the same $ last year. If that's an indication of 2021cost, I'd prefer Avilla by a lot.

Funny, was just looking at his stats. Yeah, not bad. Defensively, and a bit more expensive, the coup de grace would be Avila. That dude can still bring it! Knows AL & central real well, too. .... as does Romine.

ofc, just as long as the word "quality" can still be used the further down the list you go. Really just need one the staff has complete confidence in and has all/most of the talents that define that.

oops, sorry, forgot to add Lynn trade to that.

Sorry for turning this Hendriks thread into a catcher discussion. It was not my intention. There's another older thread for this. Have they signed Hendriks yet? lol

Agreed! I guess I'm assuming that those names mentioned, all current starters, would be ready and willing at their age to become backups on a championship caliber team. $2-3m seems to be a reasonable guesstimate based on limited market value research.

Exactly! And it can be averted so affordably; money well spent. I can't see turning over our staff for a length of time to a guy who is still trying to figure things out for himself.

I hate to disappoint you but they will NEVER spend that kind of money. Not sure what Sox world you live in but their all in window has started.

So what do you think their 2021 payroll should be? Darvish, Hendriks, & Giolito extension totals ~ $60m You buying out the park for the season?

lol would be nice. I have no doubt that Collins will be a MLB catcher before he retires but needs to play every day to figure out why his top level skills haven't translated to the majors. He can't work it out getting 6 AB's a week.

I doubt if the few at the top of the available list would do that. I can't see Suzuki, Avila, Flowers, etc taking that offer. The good ones will all be signed to play in MLB by time the season starts.

The catchers need to be set before the season starts. Bringing in a new catcher to a new staff in the middle of a season is not the best option.

You want then to spend way more than they're capable of before you consider them all in.

This is part of my point, was just typing the same thing. However, there are many good choices, defensively or offensively that would keep us out of trouble in that scenario. Not to mention having a vet catcher for our pitching staff; a vet to catch the vets and a vet to help guide the younger guys. EX would Lynn do better throwing to Collins or say, a Suzuki or Avila? Again $2-3m for that security.

Because they trade for Lynn and going after Hendriks and must extend Giolito the sooner the better. They ain't the Yankees or Dodgers!

He's definitely an asset; either as trade material or preferably 3rd string (in Charlotte) for another year to work on his deficiencies and be ready if called upon.

Saying they're not "all in" this year is just wrong. Prolonged success; yes, but it starts this year.

Perhaps but I think it would be very risky and incredibly shortsighted of them to be "all in" with Collins when a quality veteran backup is so inexpensive.

Also need LH DH & vet backup catcher.