Chimpton

I know it is very early in Spring Training but have any of the call ups impressed you enough to think that they will play a part in 2022?

If the Sox had signed Rodon to a deal like this then it would have provoked more than 3 pages of arguing.

I would just like to say how refreshing it is to see everyone back to arguing about on field matters again!

As an outsider watching all of this, what really surprises me if that the two sides are not negotiating every minute of every day to solve this stand off. There seems to be no real urgency from either side, and MLB seems unconcerned about cancelling 2 weeks of the season and the players seem equally unconcerned.

Thanks for the info, does that mean that say Charlotte Knights don't make money for themselves and are all part of the overall White Sox umbrella?

As a UK Sox fan who has read this thread to try and educate myself more about this lockout, one thing that shocks me is how little most minor league players get paid. I know they are not MLB standard and many are young hopefuls but the games still get attendances who pay to go to the games and buy concessions etc. I know the aim is to make the MLB but for those who don't but have a good MiLB career they really should be paid better and should be able to afford accommodation that is not subsidized by the club.

And politics has nothing to do with sporting achievement which is what the HoF should be about. There are plenty of unpleasant characters who were great players in the HoF.

Well it can't get much worse they were 26th ranked last season!

Back to back play off births that lasted one series then elimination. That is hardly what the rebuild was aiming at, we were told they were aiming at multiple World Series births not just showing up and embarrassing ourselves in the play offs.

I would hold out for some crackers to go with the cheese.

Most of us on here would be happy if they took him and his wages even if we got nothing back in return!

Yes but what will the Sox do?

A considered opinion ?

Nor me, but some on here think he will never be a good starting 2B, and you know that if he came back he would get criticism on here!

They could give back Madrigal and but that would cause too much argument here on Soxtalk so the trade could never be done!

Even if Spring Training starts on time it will be a long off season!

Thank you for such a thorough reply.

Being from the UK where we are not used to this style of sporting lockout, who do you consider to be most at fault for this one? I have tried reading as much as possible but different articles blame different sides, or is it a case of they are both being stubborn and eventually will get things sorted?

Sorry I missed that, it still says (report) on the Official Sox MLB page.

90 pages in and the Sox have only signed Graveman (if reports are true), other than that not even a strong Sox related rumour. Can we make it another 90 pages before the Sox actually sign or trade for someone?

That's what being a Sox fan is all about ?

Any rumours about what is happening regarding Leury Garcia? Personally if they could get him on a reasonable FA deal I would re-sign him as he is so versatile.

Eloy is not as bad as many on here think, yes he has had injuries and yes his fielding is below average, and that has stalled his development but his upside with the bat is too good to be trading away right now. If he has another season like last season then this needs revisiting even if it means getting less back in return. Vaughn equally has too much potential to be trading him away unless it is a very favourable trade, but even then I wouldn't. Burger and Sheets on the other hand could be trade chips but would not get a great deal, however a swap for a similar prospect/young player in a position we need cover may be worthwhile.

I would rather do it now in a proper trade than do a 'Madrigal' half way through the season and lose him for under value.

Not sure, but he would be good at karaoke nights for the team.