Chimpton

By 'if the White Sox want to win' do you mean win the World Series, finish above .500 or win a game? Because one of those will probaly happen, one might happen and one will not happen.

The evidence from this season suggests the answer is Yes they do lose with the current players! But in all seriousness without a change of FO and manager etc any trades will just be new bodies to do the same thing. The only point of trading for prospects is if you have a manager/coaches who can actually develop them into MLB talent, and over the last few years the White Sox have shown they don't

Grifol after todays loss said "we're also coming to the ballpark every day to improve and develop and do the things that we have to do to set us up moving forward." There are absolutely no signs of this team improving or developing. Apart from Thorpe the young prospects appear to be developing and improving nothing, and if they do like Sosa, who was beginning to hit a bit, they get sent down.

Even the White Sox?

The clock is ticking but there is no great hurry to shift Robert if the deals aren't good enough. He has team control and options that would make him just as valuable at the end of the season or this time next year, and IF he could stay fit and return to last season's form he would be more valuable than now. Crochet is different because there is a big chance that this is his peak value because the potential for injury or loss of form would diminish any value if they held on to him longer.

I thought he had allegedly already turned down an extension with the White Sox?

That is my worry about promoting players like Brooks Baldwin, we have a manager who has repeatedly shown no ability to nurture young prospects and a dressing room that is full of players who know they are on the way out and have lost over 70 games so far.

Or send him back to AAA in 2 weeks time.

An ideal White Sox player!

Should fit in well with the White Sox this season.

Also this was on a different Sox site "Nightengale stories are the only way we learn the terms of a White Sox manager’s employment. The last time around, he divulged that the White Sox were paying Tony La Russa $4 million a year, while it looks like Grifol is making less than Rick Renteria did". The same article also said "Grifol is in the second year of a three-year contract for about $3 million." As Renteria was supposedly on $1.2 a season it looks like Grifol is om about $1 million a season.

I thought it was supposed to be wrong predictions!

A present for Grifol for the second half of the season from JR

I think we all know the answer to that one. And more importantly would anyone with 'real talent' actually want to come to the Sox at the moment?

When a .333 winning percentage is a big improvement you know you are having a bad season!

You will probably have more luck than the Sox shifting Beni.

If true that will be an improvement in itself, but you wonder who they will get to replace him, this team needs a manager and coaches who can help young players develop and teach them some fundamentals. For a start actually playing them instead of ageing veterans way past whatever peak they had.

But this will only work if the current manager is gone, which under the current ownership is not a certainty even after this embarrassment of a season.

I was kind of hoping he would be gone by then, but knowing the current ownership he will still be around.

Is that on the basis that they can't get much worse?

Just a quick question from an ignorant Brit, but why does Schuster get the win when Kuhl pitched 3 innings as well and the winning run was scored when he was pitching?

But the way he's playing at the moment can only be harming any trade value, he's hitting poorly, and looks half fit. Surely any GM interested in him would want to see him hitting again and mobile.

And this stat is from when a tanking team would get the first draft pick the following year, that doesn't apply to the White Sox.

There is a big difference between not being competitive and a 21-60 half season.

According to research, done back on Feb. 19, the trio of Eloy Jimenez, Luis Robert Jr. and Yoan Moncada had played together in 158 of 546 games since the debut of Robert in 2020 entering 2024 season. Since when all 3 have spent more time injured. And many of those 158 games one or more of them were returning from injury so not anywhere near their best. Considering they were supposed to be the 'core' of the last rebuild the fact that they have played less than a full season together out of the last 3 is a damning indictment of the Sox medical department and their individual conditioning. It is especially damning that many of the injuries lately have come running the bases, which is rather a fundamental ability.