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Makes sense but no way the mommies and daddies who want scholarships will allow their kids to play more than one sport. Traveling teams make me want to puke. They go to Florida and win the 10 and under World Series at Disney. World Series? LOL. There are probably 1000 World Series around the country in the summer for traveling teams to play in with mommies and daddies monitoring every step of the way. Back in the day parents stayed out of their kids business and kids were happy playing Little League at the 115th and Homan fields. Now ... travel teams baby. We'll teach your kids how to be stars if they play just one sport and we'll get em a schollie for sure if you pay the big travel team fees.
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8/20 Game Thread: White Sox vs. Giants - 8:45 CT;
greg775 replied to Chisoxfn's topic in 2024 Season in Review
They are doing what they are supposed to in 2024. Hit a homer or whiff. Exciting product. -
8/20 Game Thread: White Sox vs. Giants - 8:45 CT;
greg775 replied to Chisoxfn's topic in 2024 Season in Review
Three hits? It's hard to get less than 5 hits in a game. Sheets and Vaughn back in the outhouse. Robert not exactly doing anything before and after that 2 homer game he had. Man we stink. -
Sad that even soft throwers need TJS ultimately. Baseball training needs an overhaul. I have no idea what's going on but I'd suspect the way our young pitchers with talent go through the different levels of baseball has to be screwed up. Curve balls thrown too early? Arm overused at LL, Babe Ruth, Legion, HS levels? something up with minor league development? Baseball needs to figure something out. There already are dozens of amazingly lousy relievers in baseball with tons of mediocre starters. Sad. Something must be done in development changes.
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Sorry Lip. I wrote double tank not talk. I know u don't double talk and I recognize you are 50 times smarter about MLB than me and smarter about the Sox than me. I get very frustrated being out of the race in April and again next April. I accept JR and the partners are the problem but it frustrates me similarly cheap teams like KCR, Det, Minnie, Cleveland win with similar budgets and smaller cities. I respect you Lip and realize your knowledge is much greater than mine.
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This board can't explain rebuilding. Cause they won't explain to me how a team like the Chicago White Sox can do so poorly in a division full of small market/no money teams. Having to resort to the double tank is appalling and offensive and repulsive.
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It's not been going on forever cause the Sox haven't been bad each and every year of this board's existence. I was as positive a poster as there was when the Sox were actually in contention which the Sox were for many years of this board's existence. Now they are buried.
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Lip, a lot of fans on here and many who have probably lost interest in the team and left, get energized by trades and rebuilding talk. Can you imagine if they didn't change the draft rules how many people would embrace the tank? Tanking/rebuilding just drains me of all energy. Get a real GM like Dombroski in here and a real manager like Leyland and with the benefits of playing in Chicago we'd have won multi titles without tanking! I'm just trying to point out in this division it is utterly incomprehensible the Sox can't compete with the small market teams in our division. It's just insanity.
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I'd take Chet over Robert in all scenarios. Robert must be a headcase with all those K's. He's too young and has too much alleged talent to whiff as much as he does.
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Man, 30-95 and we're not out of August yet. That would be neat if we lost No. 100 before the end of the month. Sad though that baseball season no longer is something we can look forward to. That's the problem with those who embrace tanking and encourage this rebuilding crud. We have nothing to look forward to for years to come. The fact we can't even compete against KC, Minnie, Detroit, Cleveland is so laughable but nobody cares. We'll just go on our merry way rebuilding. There's no reason these Central teams can compete and we can't ever compete.
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No bats. Another series the Sox somehow win one game then drop the rest. Weird. Is this Bush guy this good? Is he a guarantee starter next year? Luis Robert needs to go. Let him be Tatis for another team. Three more Ks for Robert. Must be nice to make a zillion dollars and all you have to do is swing for the fences every at bat. Strike out most of the time but occasionally knock one out. I will say he's a fluid center fielder but he's no Chet Lemon. Pretty bad when you'd rather have the guaranteed numbers of a Chet Lemon for a career over Robert.
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Illinois High School Football Thread
greg775 replied to Y2Jimmy0's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Thanks for the in depth update and the look at baseball field. I always wondered how many balls hit those houses and also cars in the parking lot and on the side street. ... Interesting about coach Q. Sounds like the AD knows what he's doing grabbing a tough minded coach from outside Illinois to coach in the tough Catholic League. It's funny how you said it's the first class coach Q recruited. We all know Rice doesn't recruit Let us know when the rankings come out and where Rice, Marist, Loyola and Mt. Carmel are ranked. I can't believe I considered going to St. Laurence, choosing BR over Laurence in the final analysis. Glad I did. Peace out. -
At least we can look forward to next April when the Sox go 8-22 and are out of the race after 3 weeks.
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5 hits, lol. Robert 1-4 with three more K's. LOL. Another one-sided loss during the 2024 season.
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Hopefully he'll be good enough to get extended.
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Well, the Sox haven't gotten 'hot' all season which makes me think we lose big. However Robert is hot and might stay hot. Still I would say smart money would be to bet the Astros heavy. I'd not bet the entire house but the backyard pool and lounge set.
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Yet when the arms are being developed the pitchers throw the max allowed by league rules with no concern for arm building. Got to win at all costs. How bout build those arms up then in MLB let 'em learn to go 7-8 innings?
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No, let's go back to when a starter can manage an entire game (Buehrle cough cough; Seaver cough cough; Hoyt, Jenkins, Stieb). Starting pitching was artestry not just bringing heat like today, It is even surprising Sox are even giving slowballer Drew Thorpe a chance at starting with the current mindset. I was reading some analytical mumbo jumbo about how the author was surprised we aren't at the point starters are flamethrowers who go 3 innings max, ideally recording 8 outs minimum by K. Go 3 flamethrowers per game three innings each. See if a hitter or two can connect for a HR and that's your 2 hour game. Let's say 3-1 or 4-2 with 3 homers in the 3-1 game and four homers in the 4-2 game.
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Not false. . I'm talking about starters right now and only starting pitchers. Under the current mindset caused by excessive analytics, starting pitchers age 25 and up have no shot at the Hall. Only stat from a starter of value now and in the future is gonna be Ks vs walks issued. And tons of starters will have a lot of Ks. In the former days, W/L was the first stat to look at for a starter; number of saves for a reliever.
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Well, that's a huge problem, lol. Because of it being slowpaced and trying to win over people with short attention spans, the league faces some huge issues regarding its future. ... I'm not all for rules changes. The thing with the pitchers, I'd prefer figuring a way for the next generation to return to 8 inning starters without making some dumb rule starters have to go six. Six frankly doesn't satisfy greg. I want eight innings to be common on a good night (with no rule in place) and let the closer close. The more relievers you need to use the worse the game is. Baseball is loaded with incompetent relief pitchers. Finding a way to limit mound usage to 3 pitchers MAX per game would be beneficial. Even better would be starter goes eight on a good night with a Gossage closing it.
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Credit this one to the new manager. Sox would have lost tonight under Pedro. All praise to Robert. I just bet yu guys the new manager had a meeting with Robert after taking over and telling him it's Robert time. Maybe Robert does only care about the $$ and mailing it in and connecting for a HR once in a while, but I just bet u. the skipper had a talk with him. If you get a chance to manage in MLB and have an underachiever like Robert with talent, you speak with him if u are smart. Nice win.
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Respectfully you are wrong. The Hall of Fame is interesting to fans of all ages. Superstardom is interesting to fans of all ages. From now on we will have no Hall of Famers from the starting pitcher category. Why? Cause the W/L stat is now laughable. in the only stat that matters (K's), TONS of starters will have similar totals. They can go five innings and whiff 10 or so. Big deal. How bout the days when a pitcher could go 23-5 W/L for a season? Remember LaMarr Hoyt flirting with 30 wins? Days long gone by. Please people, comment on the demise of a category of player such as starting pitcher. Is it good for the game to switch from talking about pitcher superstars to all similar mediocres who can whiff 10 over 5 innings? Then take a shower and come back four days later? How bout starters who throw six strong innings, get out of a jam in the sixth, then breeze through the seventh and eighth and give way to a closer in the 9th. Never will happen again. Sad.
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NRockway: You tell me about the extinction of the starting pitcher as a player that matters AT ALL and how that is good for the game. Because of analytics, it was decided starters should not face hitters in their third time at the plate in a game. Certainly not a fourth time. So that led to the ridiculous starter who often can't even go long enough to be eligible for a win. W/L record means NOTHING. All that matters are K's and I guess to a certain extent ERA even though the stat mongers don't care 'much' about ERA. Nobody will answer my question about how you feel about no starting pitchers to enter the Hall of Fame in the future. NONE unless there are a few stragglers out there who have a ton of wins. Cause the W/L stat is THE only stat that matters for Hall of Fame inclusion. So also answer me Rockway ... Is the game in a state of crisis when you have made insignificant the role of the starting pitcher?? WIth batting average also a stat 'ruined' by the philosophy of HR/K all that matters, you've got what, 6-8 hitters in each league over .300? Is it good for the game to have no 25-year-old starters and up to ever gain admittance to the Hall? All we will care about from now on is how many K's a pitcher has. And that's not going to be remarkable cause virtually every pitcher who manages to go five innings will have between 8-12 K's. Sickening. Please respond, people. The extinction of the starting pitcher in MLB is akin to dinosaurs leaving the earth. Significant.
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That is kind of an interesting topic. Would fans go if the tickets the rest of the season starting now were free? I would say yes some would go only if the parking also was free. 20 bills or whatever they are charging is a good whack to the wallet these days. Considering you probably can get in the park cheap right now off the secondary market collapsing regarding the Sox I'd say you'd also need free parking to agree to go to a game.
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That's a start. Finally a gesture for the fans. I've always wondered why a team this bad wouldn't simply have a deal buy tickets for two games, get one game free for a total of 3 games. There's no reason a team this bad doesn't have a deal like that. Or buy tickets for two games in April and the first two weeks of May and get two games free during the summer. Free should not be a four letter word to these money grubbing lousy franchises. ... Also have some more food deals. And have buy tickets for two games, parking is free for a third game you buy.