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It's what I hate about sports. When you boo guys who once were great you are showing what a fair weather person you are. Once I respect a player I stick with the player.

If Frank did indeed get booed, those people that booed should have their fan cards taken away. That's just unacceptable. Some guys earn lifetime achievement awards which includes no hometown booing.

I think he could play 2B adequately to nicely. It's a lot easier than SS where he was unreliable.

Also it was a close, 'good' game. Competitors like Pete Rose make that throw. I'd love to hear some old time baseballer talk about Robert not throwing. Again, very bad optics. There's always a chance the runner falls or leaves early or misses the plate. Weird way to end a close game against the division leaders.

That one might deserve a fine. Or have him sit a game to think about it. What if the runner stumbles?? He didn't even toss it home.

Cleveland announcers a bit baffled Robert didn't "even bother" to throw home on the pop fly that won the game. A bad look if anything. Mabe Robert felt as if he'd pull something if he fired a throw home. Bad optics anyway.

The Sox are just what the doc ordered for Cleveland's Guardians. We make teams well. I have two questions: 1.) Is Sosa good? Is this guy a pivotal piece? 2.) Do we now love Vaughn and figure he's finally figured it all out? He's almost to .250 and slugging HRs. He's a likeable chap so I am rooting for Vaughn. Now I'll read how we lost this one. I haven't checked anything but the box score so far.

Holy cow. This will be controversial, but I'd sign him. He's much better than what we got. He's a cheap contract and if we want to build on our pitching for next year, we have room for him at second base!! We can release Lopez and sign TA and have him get his act together with a strong eye on 2025. You can't deny we need a middle infielder til Monte is ready.

The problem is we in the interim 'add' your Lopezes, Phams, Maldys and the plethora of guys we've acquired to try in RF the past several seasons.

I respect you for your consistent angst/anger/displeasure regarding Jerry. I do. I hope u respect my anger/angst/displeasure at this new Sox mandate of losing losing losing every year under the guise of a 'rebuild.' ... I'd buy into your JR argument, but he's had the best doctors in life. He may live 15 more years for gosh sakes.

I wish we'd call this a tank/rebuild instead of just a rebuild. That way the horror of the next few seasons would be more fresh in our minds. I still shake my head at a rotation that includes Cease, Crochet, Thorpe, Fedde, Kopech, Schultz and the other minor leaguers. Robert as well as Quero and Montgomery, Ramos and Colas are ready to rake. But we already got rid of Cease and are about to strip Robert and /Crochet from the mix so we can keep taking/losing at least 2 more seasons. Fun times on the south side.

At what point do we stop? When suddenly we have so much talent we win every game, every series? Let's say we trade Crochet for four Orioles prospects. Some of those guys may be close to being ready for the bigs, very close. So if one or two rake, do we then deal them for more prospects? Then if one of them excel, do we trade that guy? So suddenly the Sox are smarter than everybody and have acquired voila a WS dynasty? Oh wait, we had a chance to build on a great team in 2005 and did not.

White Sox tanker Math (which by the way is loser mentality in life): Obtain/develop two of the best players/prospects in baseball (Crochet, Robert). Then get rid of them and field a team with a whole lotta Lopez'es, Maldy's and Phams.

Chicken and egg theory. Seems to me the Sox are re$igned to never being elite again. Thank$ Jerry.

The Royals put Bo Jackson in their Hall of Fame Saturday. Remember the days the Sox thought it important to sign Bo Jackson? A real star? Long gone. Now anybody good gets traded with apparently the goal many 100 loss seasons to come.

I'll venture to say 90 percent of Sox fans consider it purposefully tanking for the future if Crochet is traded. Nobody cares about money. They just want to win.

What's with the Sox pitching? It's become the best in the league over two weeks or so. Sox will have a lot of explaining to do if they don't get a total HAUL in return after trading all our starters soon. Sox pitching coach must be a whiz. Managerial candidate?

Yeah I thought it too (watching replay as I don't watch the games this year with no mlbcom), but like I said, the 5 to 12 year old market ain't watching.

But Lip Man, with Cease and Lopez and the current crop of starting pitchers (plus Quintana) we'd have a promising outlook for next season, assuming Jerry would pay just a bit for 2 everyday players. Is he that cheap he wouldn't take on ANY money at all?

First of all I'm not offended by your mention of church which is kind of a non sequitir here. If that was a little shot, that's OK. You may have not meant it that way. I can take a little teasing if it was a little joke. You know what? I thought of the 'little kid' thing. And I could accept that argument that kids might like the growling in the call and screaming of 'adios.' Might even be educational if a 5-year-old wasn't familiar with 'adios.' HOWEVER I came to the conclusion on a bright summer day, nobody's watching or very few kids are watching (if they are indoors they are playing video games over White Sox baseball) the abysmal White Sox on TV versus the abysmal Rocks. So in short I can't accept the little kid argument. Besides announcers are supposed to be announcing for the beer demographic, 21 to 41. Even if he decided on his own to go for the 5 to 12 year olds, that'd be a good way to get fired. Not many 5 to 12s are watching MLB Sox style. Peace out.

That call deserves some discussion. I tried, couldn't spark any. greg rarely gets outraged but the growling turned me into a critical madman.

So you are kind of agreeing with me with the only holdup Jerry's wallet. Sad state of affairs Jerry won't even TRY to field a winner. I repeat my mantra: If this is the case fricking contract the team. Just move it to Tennessee. That state is growing, will sell out every game and that new owner will make a ton of $$. Sox get an expansion team bought by M. Cuban or Ice Cube or some foreign mogul.

The growling was too much. The adios was not good according to my tastes but I could understand if he wanted to do 'adios' on Robert homers. The growling makes me speechless.

I feel for Stoney. What can he do when his partner is completely grade-schoolish? No offense to Schriff. But why force it? Bennetti couldn't come up with a reasonable catch phrase so he just announced. Schriff's call was so silly I don't even know what to say.

Ugh. Double ugh. What is going on with these announcers? Everybody wants a signature call I guess to put on Tshirts and monetize.