The Kids Can Play

With all that booing, TA will be once again be offended and he'll need a crying towel while he gives us another drama speech how the fans need to be more supportive.

There has been criticism of Lynn this year but you're probably right, not enough blasting of his horrible outings this year. He is getting older (36 in 2 weeks), doesn't keep in good shape and that's much harder on a 36 year old body which is carrying too much weight. I know me personally was one of the ones here critical of him not getting in better shape before the season and why he chose to go to the WBC. The worst thing about Lynn this year is his fastball has dropped a lot in speed and with no movement. His control and ability to locate his fastball which used to be his strength, is now a weakness with his slower fastball and no movement. His secondary pitches are useless. He is either missing out of the zone way too often, or over the middle of the plate that gets crushed. It's simple, nobody is free of criticism on this team. Evert player on this roster is not playing as they were expected to.

April 25, 2014 , Literally a Blast from the Past. I remember watching that game. STARTING LINEUP Adam Eaton CF Marcus Semien 3B Jose Abreu 1B Adam Dunn DH Dayan Viciedo RF Alexei Ramirez SS Alejandro De Aza LF Tyler Flowers C Gordon Beckham 2B PITCHERS Erik Johnson - Starter Jake Petricka Zach Putnam Ronald Belisario Matt Lindstrom - W SUBS Paul Konerko PH Leury Garcia PR John Danks PR Adrian Nieto PR

Actually the last time Berrios was good against the Sox was 2019. He went 4-1, 33.2 Inn, 34 hits. 11 ER's 4 HR's and 2.98 ERA that year. It wasn't worth going back further than 2019, as its such a completely different Sox roster than now. We only played Berrios once last year in 2022 and we beat him 8-7. He went 4 Inn, 9 Hits, 6 ER's and 3 HR's. ERA 13.50 In 2021, he was 0-3 in 4 starts against the Sox. 21 Inn, 24 hits, 13 ER's and 5 HR's, ERA 5.57. Pretty much we have owned him the last two years. This will be Berrios's 5th start in 2023. His first two games vs KC and LAA he got beat bad. He went W-L 0-2, 9 Inn, 15 Hits, 12 ER's, 6.65 ERA. However his last two games against two good teams TB and HOU, he was W-L 1-1 with 12 Inn. 7 Hits, 3 ER's, 0 HR's, 2,25 ERA. Hopefully the Sox won't make Berrios look like Cy Young tonight with our impatient and undisciplined at bats.

In that insanely dumb decision that Jerry fired Hahn but brought TLR back as GM or in any FO capacity, I will unequivocally be DONE being a Sox fan, until Jerry sells the team and is completely gone.

All great points! However your best point is that Hahn should have resigned when TLR was hired. In hindsight I'm sure in Hahn's own mind, I'm sure he agrees. If he left then his resume wouldn't be as damaged as it has become hanging on. Another owner would easily understand that not being able to hire your own manager is wrong. Now his resume has been trashed even more and probably assures the fact he will never get another quality GM job with a successful wining team. For that matter any losing team. Hell, what owner of a real bad losing team, would want Hahn to be responsible in turning their fortunes. He already proved he failed miserably in his last attempt.

I know it was five but I'm sorry, it has to be eight players for me. 1. Hendricks - He is a warrior and I want guys on this team with his fire. He is a leader and we don't have any true leaders on this team. I know he will work harder than ever to make a strong comeback. 2. Colas - He is young and raw. His upside is huge and I don't think we would get a lot for him yet. I am tired of watching players leave the Sox and go be stars somewhere else. 3. Cease - He has special talent, but he just doesn't have the right pitching coach to refine him. Yes you could probably get some decent prospects for Dylan, but then you have no starters left. 4. Burger - We have hung so long with Jake and we are now seeing the huge potential. We need to see it through and not let some other team make him a star. 5. Ramos - He has such electric stuff and needs a pitching coach because he could be a nasty reliever with the right development and tweaking. 6. Montgomery - Too much upside talent to not keep. 7. Schultz - He is young and raw. His fastball is strong and lively and his slider according to many experts, could be one of the best in baseball at some point. 8. Vaughn - I just think in time the power will be there and for driving in runs. We spent a #3 overall pick on him and its too early in his development to give up. The rest of the players can all be traded or DFA no matter how much or little we get back. I just wish it wasn't Hahn doing the trades.

I know its only April, but this team is horrible on all levels: - Horrible hitting in situational opportunities and clutch hitting with RISP. - The starters are bad and always implode early in the game to always let their team down early in the game, which is always a nightmare to battle back from from. - The bullpen although has been better lately, it's still a highly overpaid and under performing mess. - The injuries are still a huge problem. - The manager might be a nice guy, but clearly over his head and won't be able to turn this bad team around. Naturally per the White FO & Owner MO, Pedro will be the scapegoat and fired eventually. - Rick Hahn and his FO are completely inept and have not only destroyed the rebuild, but left the farm system in complete shambles. - The worst thing is the owner is old, senile, uncaring and detached from his team. Thus he will bring zero leadership and prudent owner responsibility to make massive changes to stop this bleeding and further destruction of this team. - We are already 7-16 and 9 games below 500. There are only three MLB teams that have a worst record thus far than the Sox. Same Old s%*#, Different Day! Thank You Jerry...I'm a glutton for punishment...may I please have another!

Again the Dodgers have zero shortstops. Tim would be a huge addition and they don't have to eat that much money on Tim's salary. They won't miss a few top prospects because every year they have one of the best ranked farm systems year in and year out because they know how to scout, draft and develop young prospects...hence why they recruited away Andrew Friedman. You can move Gavin Lux to SS, but he doesn't compare anywhere near the hitting production of TA.

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I didn't only use passion and effort. I did mention they need to give a better physical and mental effort as well. However if you think this team played with a ton of passion at Tampa Bay, then I'm not sure what you were watching. Btw, giving a better effort is not delusional as you refer to. It is a key component to being a good winning team. You're right the Sox pitchers walk too many batters. There needs to be a stronger mental approach from the pitchers, as well as the physical ability to start throwing more strikes and better pitches, which is passion and effort. You're right the Sox batters are extremely undisciplined in their batting approach and don't take enough walks, get too little good hitting counts and swing at way too many pitches outside the zone. This especially takes a more passionate effort from each hitter and a better mental approach.

Toronto is 13-9 and the Sox 7-15. Tot is 4-2 at home and the Sox 4-9 on the road. The Sox better toughen up and put in a better physical and mental effort as opposed to their lackluster TB series performance. This isn't about whether they like or respect Pedro. They need get mad and put their big boy pants on and play as the major leaguers who the Sox chose to help this team win and were paid extremely well for that. The Sox collectively need to quit this BS play where it appears they don't care. Get rid of all these constant ways you keep finding to lose The Sox either rise to the occasion and stop this horrible 2023 start and win their damn first series of the year, or they can continue to chock and play with no passion and effort. If they do the latter, they can go back home 7-18 or 8-17 to face the hottest team Tampa Bay, who they just got spanked by.

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I think TA would be a great fit for the Dodgers. I think he would demand a top pitching prospect or two from them. There a few good reasons why LAD might be willing to over-trade value in their prospects to the Sox to get TA: 1. They are off to a slow start and the pressure on LAD to win is huge as always. Keep in mind they always lead the league in attendance and nothing is different this year as they are #1 at close to 50K per home game. 2. They don't have anything close to a shortstop like Tim Anderson. - Miguel Rojas - SS - 11 games - .125/.200/.156/.356 - Chris Taylor - SS - 16 games - .111/.196/.378/.574 - Luke Williams - SS - 4 games - .100/.100/.100/.200 3. LAD has the #2 ranked farm system in baseball. They easily can afford to let some top prospects go. Unlike TB that doesn't have the money to spend and needs their farm system to stay competitive, LAD has learned to manage both FA spending and farm systems really well. LA can always fall back on just trades and FO spending in the future years to be competitive, especially since they actually are down to #5 in payroll and can afford to spend more money on players if they lose some good prospects from their farm system. Even if LAD gives away some top prospects, don't forget Andrew Friedman is running the Dodgers. He was brought there from TB because he did know how to develop a farm system, so he would easily be able to ramp it back up. Then again even if all this could happen, you are counting on Rick Hahn not to screw it up.

I agree I think the Tampa FO and coaching staff would have gotten better results with this Sox roster, but probably not as much as we might think. However I firmly believe the Tampa Bay FO wouldn't have selected most of these players from the Sox roster for their own TB roster in the first place, either by drafting, FA signings and trades. The Rays FO have a different blueprint and philosophy of what constitutes a quality productive major league player, that obviously the Sox FO have no clue on. Btw, this is not just TB, there are several other successful teams that understand the special steps needed to build and maintain a winning organization.

Oh I completely understand and agree with you this will never happen under Jerry, although it should and could, but Jerry is too stubborn and senile. This will happen after Jerry's death when some rich billionaire will come in and buy the Sox, similar to what Steve Cohen did with the Mets. He will strip it down, fire the entire loser FO and hire his own outside people with strong resumes of building and maintaining a winning baseball organization.

Let me say that if this ever happened, I would be so down with that approach and ready to be a Sox shareholder! Back to realty, that will never happen. The Packers situation is an anomaly. The next owner will be a very rich billionaire who will buy the Sox because he doesn't need the team for wealth or income, but he wants the thrill and ego of owning a baseball team. They will spend the money to not only compete with the big dogs, but probably use the time tested and logical "best practices" that they probably used in their successful business that they built making their billions. They will simply go recruit some top executives from a winning consistent team that knows how to build a farm system besides spending money in free agency.

Great videos! Wish we could get these and many more, along with SoxTalk posts sent to Jerry and Hahn and cc the entire FO.

Spot on points! I am quite confident there is not edict from JR to not develop a farm system. RH has simply hired the wrong people below him in his FO to properly build the farm system. RH of course not only didn't hire the right people, but has no clue what that blueprint from start to finish looks like in developing a productive farm system. JR did spend the money for RH. The Sox have the 12th highest payroll in MLB. RH spent the money horribly wrong. Other baseball teams do it right spending half the Sox payroll or less. We just don't have the right FO people. Unfortunately we have a uncaring senile owner who is clueless and doesn't give a crap about his team or fans.

I realize it probably will never happen, but the only way to do any trading is to do it without Rick Hahn, Kenny and the rest of the entire pathetic FO throughout the organization. I think it's absurd to let this FO do anymore trades since they have already proven they are completely inept at the retooling and/or rebuilding phases. Having said that, if Jerry wants to continue in baseball mediocrity and be a totally embarrassing losing team, then fine let the the genius RH do it again. Having said that, I would dump the following, but only near the trade deadline when you have teams more desperate: Trade Anderson, Lynn, Giolito, Grandal, Clevinger, Eloy, Benintendi, Andrus, Sheets and Moncada. I know they aren't going to get a lot for these players because their stock is down, but I don't care. The Sox can't WIN with these players, so you might as well get rid of them, because you can always LOSE with less expensive younger players. In this scenario the Sox will for sure save money, which Jerry loves, and regardless of whether the team sucks and has the worse record, which obviously Jerry again doesn't give a crap on, at least Jerry will still get his millions from the luxury tax sharing. Note to Jerry: since you are not willing to sell your team until your death, at least let your son Michael or someone else competent run the Sox. You let Michael run the Bulls and he did improve them, maybe not much yet, but way better than when you ran them. At least Michael cleaned house and went to the outside for a new FO, which is exactly what you need to do right now.

Schooled is a great term for how the Rays took all three from the Sox. You're not kidding with a fraction of the Sox salary. The Rays starting lineup from yesterday's game: 1. Yandy Diaz 1B - $6,000,000 2. Wander Franco SS - $2,454,545 3. Randy Arozarena LF - $4,150,000 4. Brandon Lowe 2B - $5,250,000 5. Harold Ramirez DH - $2,454,545 6. Issac Paredes 3B - $735,000 7. Luke Raley RF - $722,300 8. Christian Bethancourt C -$1,350,000 9. Manuel Margot CF - $7,000,000 Zach Eflin SP - $11,000,000 Rays other SP's Shane McClanahan - $737,000 Drew Rasmussen - $739,700 Taj Bradley - $720,000 Kevin Kelly - $720,000 Tyler Glasnow - 15 Day IL - $5,350,000 Rays bullpen used during 3 game Sox sweep Cooper Criswell - $720,000 Garrett Cleavinger - $725,000 Jason Adam - $1,775,000 Colin Poche - $1,175,000 Yonny Chirinos - $1,275,000 Jalen Beeks - $1,375,000 Pete Fairbanks - $3,666,666 That my Sox friends is the blueprint for an organization that completely understands and implements how a baseball team should properly Scout, Draft, Sign FA's, Make solid trades and most importantly, DEVELOP talent in their farm system. They have been doing this for the last 15 years in arguably the toughest division in baseball. It is so damn irritating our Owner and FO don't have an ounce of a F*^king clue to this blueprint concept.

Just reading the first statement "Jerry will force the FO to cut salary. He's not paying big bucks for a s%*# team is is comical and absurd." What prudent and intelligent owner would be ok with this debacle mess that Hahn and Williams have orchestrated. It's becoming hilarious how detached and clueless Jerry has become which makes me assume at 87 years old maybe his cognitive skills are eroding due to senility or early dementia. The thought of Jerry telling those two clowns, "hey guys, I know you are doing your best and it's not your fault this team sucks, but as a result, please go ahead and dump salaries of all the top players before the trade deadline."