JoeC
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...and "long term" = 2025 at a minimum
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6 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:
Define long term. A team like the Orioles wouldn’t be interested in extending him beyond 2026. What leverage would Crochet have if the Orioles said you’re pitching this postseason but they didn’t extend him? As far as I know, he has no leverage within his current contract to make such a demand.
His leverage at the time of the trade deadline was that he:
1. Was one of the top pitchers in the game, and he was on the market available for via trade. Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting a limited number of elite-level innings out of him for 2024.
2. Was still under multiple years of team control (arb). Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting many more elite-level innings out of him for at least 2025.
3. Any team acquiring him would have paid a substantial amount of prospect capital to acquire him, with a price set by (1) and (2).The risk to Crochet for pitching in the postseason is the fact that his arm has been taxed like it has never been taxed before... ever. So he's at an elevated risk for injury, as has been discussed on this forum ad nauseum.
As far as the leverage that Crochet had, he has to look out for his long-term health. While I think it's kind of bush league, players at some point have to look out for their own health at some point, and I would imagine that the players' association would be able to speak up for him
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18 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:
And what leverage did Crochet actually have within his current contract terms?
...the fact that any team would be acquiring him for the long run, and that he'd refuse to pitch based on looking out for his long-term health (ergo, the long-term health of the team asset)?
He wanted assurance that, if subject to abusing his arm for short-term success, he'd at least get some long-term stability.
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On 9/13/2024 at 3:53 PM, Milkman delivers said:
I’ve read that Hawk has privately belittled the franchise. Weirdly, I also read that the Dolphins QB is a fan, but isn’t very happy about the direction of the team. Think the article was in the Athletic.
”Hawk, Tua spit on that thing”
Update:
I still hate that I'm laughing at this. Fucking a.-
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Relegation should be an option.
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So far, 34 players have pitched for the Sox this season vs. 33 wins.
has there ever been a team that has used more pitchers than games it won?
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Will this be more pitchers than wins this year?
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1 hour ago, Milkman delivers said:
I’ve read that Hawk has privately belittled the franchise. Weirdly, I also read that the Dolphins QB is a fan, but isn’t very happy about the direction of the team. Think the article was in the Athletic.
”Hawk, Tua spit on that thing”
I hate you.
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3 minutes ago, Texsox said:
I was surprised to learn he actually had a losing record. 3731 - 3948
Also helps when you own the team; makes it a little hard to get fired.
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2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:
and they share the same spring training facility........what did they miss
Don't ask questions you don't want the answers to.
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On 4/22/2024 at 10:36 PM, T R U said:
Kopech is getting traded by the deadline and it feels like a certainty he’s a lights out reliever or a competent starter for whoever gets him.
Well who could have seen this coming?
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2 hours ago, baseball_gal_aly said:
Delete, wrong thread
In this thread? No such thing.
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@southsider2k5 - a forward of that email to their PR department, stating they should know some asshole is sending stupid emails from their email servers, would be appropriate.
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2 hours ago, flavum said:
The high water mark this season was 14-30.
Sox are 19-83 since (.186).
ho-lee-s%*#.
Their “high water mark” pace of .318 would still be about 8 or 9 games worse than the next-worst records in MLB today.
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12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
Honestly, I hope so because that indicates self awareness.
Reminds me of this Onion gem:
https://theonion.com/lou-piniellas-first-big-move-as-cubs-manager-is-to-resi-1819568767/
I kind of can't wait to see what they come up with for the Sox.
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5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
And probably the $16.5 million contract that was given to him.
We could have signed Moldy to a 2-year deal with those savings.
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5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
The headline totally sounds like a threat.
The manager I want to see (no joke) is Ricky Renteria.
Say what you will about his 2020 late-season and postseason managerial moves, but he knows how to help players grow, even on losing teams.
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13 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
yes, but they would have won just as many playoff series.
Yes, but we would have missed out on that one Leury home run.
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2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:
‘‘We’ve built out a process that we feel very good about,’’
May god have mercy on us all...
Do they think it's innovative to have a process to hire the right candidate for a position?
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I can't believe they're not considering TLR.
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2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
And Jerry is setting his sights on a new concession item for next year that can top the Campfire Milkshake.
Dumpster Fire Nachos?
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Well, the state of New York oughta at least have one football team in the state, right??
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Even earlier than the announcement. As soon as rumors started, we all knew it was bad.
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We have a game, right?
seems like it’s competitive.
Chasing Records — 120 losses secured!
in Pale Hose Talk
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This is what you get for your "Hawk, Tua spit on that thing" post.