JoeC

I think you're confusing "impossible" with "irresponsible." What the Sox are doing with him is pretty uncharted territory. He's proving us wrong in September. Maybe what the Sox are doing with him, in terms of easing off his workload (but keeping him on a routine) is working. Hopefully this means that Crochet doesn't flame out in 2025 like a lot of the Sox rotation seemed to in 2006.

Yeah plenty of time to act scared and deflated later.

@Lip Man 1 so you’re saying they’ve performed better in 1-run games than the rest of their record?

No, and seemingly no. Then again, everything is fine, per his brain trust, so why should we care? </sarc>

I think that if they let the Sox leave for some reason, they'll just let Chicago be a 1-market team. After enough time, the 1/3 of the metro area that pulls for the Sox will just drift over to Cubdom, so, outside of a few hardcore fans a) whose Sox fandom will follow the Sox out of town (supporter-wise); or b) the casual fans who don't contribute much financially anyways and just drift away from baseball altogether, it's not like MLB's TV market is going to shrink considerably. I think it's an asinine move to move the Sox out of this market, but if it does, I wouldn't count on MLB replacing the Sox in Chicago.

To be fair, that could have been anyone sitting on the bench contributing literally nothing.

So his answer to an attack on his organization being overly insular and behind the times is to consult with the insular, behind-the-times organization.

"Rick Hahn Apology Thread" That would be a really good name for an obscure band. Probably a ska band.

Or maybe it's an outdated configuration.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Airbus_A320_V3.php Seatguru says a standard United plane as 12 first class seats https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Airbus_A319_V1.php The A319 has a configuration with 8 first class seats. It looks like the Sox are using the A319. Anyways, traveling coach sucks if your competition is consistently flying first class and arriving well-rested. They need to fire that Costanza guy and get a real assistant to the traveling secretary.

Whoops. Should read 35 pitchers used (including Danny Mendick) vs. 36 wins.

35 pitchers used (including Danny Mendick) vs. 36 losses.

For once... we're probably in the middle of the pack at 0% change. See? Getz's deadline was league average </sarc>

Very good point, yes. Easy to forget we were in that position not too long ago.

Like I said, that would be my approach based on my motivations. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you or criticizing Crochet. I just know that, given my personality, I would have taken a different approach. You never know if you're EVER going to be able to play for another championship ever again in your life, so you go for it... full stop. That's my personality, without knowing what it feels like to have a 9-figure payday as a realistic future outcome.

I mean, I understand it, and I think it's logical. He's a professional athlete who needs to protect his livelihood, especially when he's on the cusp of becoming generationally wealthy as a result of a lifetime of work. There's just the one part of me as an athlete that, if presented with the same opportunity, I would jump all over the chance to contribute to a championship. Thus my "bush league" comment, but maybe it's the complete opposite of "bush league" because we're talking about a lot of money.

This is what you get for your "Hawk, Tua spit on that thing" post.

...and "long term" = 2025 at a minimum

His leverage at the time of the trade deadline was that he: 1. Was one of the top pitchers in the game, and he was on the market available for via trade. Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting a limited number of elite-level innings out of him for 2024. 2. Was still under multiple years of team control (arb). Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting many more elite-level innings out of him for at least 2025. 3. Any team acquiring him would have paid a substantial amount of prospect capital to acquire him, with a price set by (1) and (2). The risk to Crochet for pitching in the postseason is the fact that his arm has been taxed like it has never been taxed before... ever. So he's at an elevated risk for injury, as has been discussed on this forum ad nauseum. As far as the leverage that Crochet had, he has to look out for his long-term health. While I think it's kind of bush league, players at some point have to look out for their own health at some point, and I would imagine that the players' association would be able to speak up for him

...the fact that any team would be acquiring him for the long run, and that he'd refuse to pitch based on looking out for his long-term health (ergo, the long-term health of the team asset)? He wanted assurance that, if subject to abusing his arm for short-term success, he'd at least get some long-term stability.

Update: I still hate that I'm laughing at this. Fucking a.

Relegation should be an option.

So far, 34 players have pitched for the Sox this season vs. 33 wins. has there ever been a team that has used more pitchers than games it won?

Will this be more pitchers than wins this year?