JoeC

I guess I don't remember it being so endemic as it has been since TLR's taken over. The end of the Ozzie years was bad, but I don't ever remember it being this bad from a body language standpoint, effort standpoint, etc. He's the kind of leader who would come in and tear people a new one and get respect in an environment like the current team. The message may wear thin after awhile, but that's the kind of personality the team needs right now.

Was it ever really an issue of effort or focus under Ozzie? Ozzie wasn't afraid to challenge his guys for things other than hitting a 3-0 pitch off of a position player.

Agreed. Unfortunately you need an Ozzie type here.

This team needs accountability. It didn't cost us anything, but Yoan digging it after Andrus' missed catch (not Elvis' fault there) is indicative of that effort.

I mean, when is the last time you saw poor play / effort called out and held accountable? If Harrison is as good of a clubhouse influence and leader as he is supposed to be, i would think even he would agree

If I'm Cairo I pull Harrison right now in the middle of the inning.

Looks like Lance has decided that there are more pitches to throw besides fastballs.

I’m not saying his isn’t due to stress, and I’m not insinuating anything about knowing anything about TLR’s condition. My post was in response to someone saying that keeping an eye on your stressful workplace can’t be considered a health risk. not sure how I gave you the impression otherwise.

As someone who works a pretty stressful job that has nearly caused nervous breakdowns and physical ailments as a result of stress, being exposed to any part of it during my off hours is extremely stress-inducing and has strongly negatively impacted my health. I disagree vehemently with your statement.

Clearly a progressive manager, pioneering the concept of managing by Zoom.

I think i am

To be fair.... the same question should be asked of Vaughn and Sheets.

Thank you. I wish all IT personnel would communicate like this.

If the team gets a legitimate lefthanded hitting RFer who can play defense, I'm OK with keeping Vaughn and Abreu as 1B / DH. Robert in CF with a legit RFer can help make up for Eloy's defensive deficiencies in LF. Oh yeah - and Sheets is a LH bench bat or trade piece.

I hope he's OK enough to live a healthy life, but I also hope he's done as manager.

…does it really count when 3 of the 5 listed have significant overlap? Either way, point made

It's uncomfortably funny

...or 15?

What - humidor is making the balls too heavy to lift in the air?

If i had to choose? TLR. At least give the GM autonomy to succeed or screw it up with full accountability.

Yeah no shit. TLR is collecting a paycheck from this shit. Be angry all you want, but you're getting paid. We're the ones paying to put up with this shit.

Let's look on the bright side. The Sox are making the national spotlight!!

I was thinking more of the events of 25 years ago this summer

These first few lyrics sum up this thread.

...but the most painful thing of all is that there is no wrong answer.