JoeC

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you or criticizing Crochet. I just know that, given my personality, I would have taken a different approach. You never know if you're EVER going to be able to play for another championship ever again in your life, so you go for it... full stop. That's my personality, without knowing what it feels like to have a 9-figure payday as a realistic future outcome.

I mean, I understand it, and I think it's logical. He's a professional athlete who needs to protect his livelihood, especially when he's on the cusp of becoming generationally wealthy as a result of a lifetime of work. There's just the one part of me as an athlete that, if presented with the same opportunity, I would jump all over the chance to contribute to a championship. Thus my "bush league" comment, but maybe it's the complete opposite of "bush league" because we're talking about a lot of money.

This is what you get for your "Hawk, Tua spit on that thing" post.

...and "long term" = 2025 at a minimum

His leverage at the time of the trade deadline was that he: 1. Was one of the top pitchers in the game, and he was on the market available for via trade. Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting a limited number of elite-level innings out of him for 2024. 2. Was still under multiple years of team control (arb). Any team acquiring him would have been doing so under the premise of getting many more elite-level innings out of him for at least 2025. 3. Any team acquiring him would have paid a substantial amount of prospect capital to acquire him, with a price set by (1) and (2). The risk to Crochet for pitching in the postseason is the fact that his arm has been taxed like it has never been taxed before... ever. So he's at an elevated risk for injury, as has been discussed on this forum ad nauseum. As far as the leverage that Crochet had, he has to look out for his long-term health. While I think it's kind of bush league, players at some point have to look out for their own health at some point, and I would imagine that the players' association would be able to speak up for him

...the fact that any team would be acquiring him for the long run, and that he'd refuse to pitch based on looking out for his long-term health (ergo, the long-term health of the team asset)? He wanted assurance that, if subject to abusing his arm for short-term success, he'd at least get some long-term stability.

Update: I still hate that I'm laughing at this. Fucking a.

Relegation should be an option.

So far, 34 players have pitched for the Sox this season vs. 33 wins. has there ever been a team that has used more pitchers than games it won?

Will this be more pitchers than wins this year?

I hate you.

Also helps when you own the team; makes it a little hard to get fired.

Don't ask questions you don't want the answers to.

Well who could have seen this coming?

In this thread? No such thing.

@southsider2k5 - a forward of that email to their PR department, stating they should know some asshole is sending stupid emails from their email servers, would be appropriate.

Their “high water mark” pace of .318 would still be about 8 or 9 games worse than the next-worst records in MLB today.

Reminds me of this Onion gem: https://theonion.com/lou-piniellas-first-big-move-as-cubs-manager-is-to-resi-1819568767/ I kind of can't wait to see what they come up with for the Sox.

We could have signed Moldy to a 2-year deal with those savings.

The manager I want to see (no joke) is Ricky Renteria. Say what you will about his 2020 late-season and postseason managerial moves, but he knows how to help players grow, even on losing teams.

Yes, but we would have missed out on that one Leury home run.

Do they think it's innovative to have a process to hire the right candidate for a position?

I can't believe they're not considering TLR.

Dumpster Fire Nachos?

Well, the state of New York oughta at least have one football team in the state, right??