The Beast

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 10:48 PM) If Hahn was willing to speak more on his trade negotiations for Q, it would already be out there. Hahn is not going to give in to fan peer pressure, nor should he. No, but my idea is something I definitely would have used on Williams back in the day since he's the kind of guy who allows things to get to him. I would like to see how Hahn responds to questions about the rebuild though, because we are at the point in the offseason where there's nothing going on and we patiently have to wait for spring training to start.

Will anyone going to SoxFest go to a Q&A with RH and grill him? Beat him up a bit and see what he says about Quintana? The lack of rumors and disagreement over what to do with Quintana now and at the deadline is driving me crazy.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) Pretty much. We get it. Call me when the deal is done. Yeah, call me when a deal is done too. It seems like Merkin and Levine are picking angles that nobody has reported and nothing more than that. WSCR reported the same exact s*** today and didn't respond to my text asking for them to elaborate further. I get that it's a Cubs station and that their programming is all set for the day, but we can't just be left hanging with more posturing and more bulls***. Either trade Quintana or say we haven't gotten our demands and be done with it.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 08:14 AM) Broken Clock Syndrome I believe the last thing he broke was Theo Epstein's extension. Things are really quiet again...great. They shouldn't have teased us with news about talks with the Pirates and Yankees weeks ago.

I think we will really have to see some other reporters tweet about this or post something else for this to get off the ground. I wonder how much teams could have upped their offers, but I hope the Sox do take something before spring training for the sale of development.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Yes, surely this will prevent any threats and intimidation from Trump. We've all seen him respond in a cool and levelheaded manner at even the mildest criticisms. What bothers me is when facts are presented towards him that are true, he and Kellyanne deny it and attack the media. Paul Ryan even said CNN didn't publish the Buzzfeed story. Now, if something was really bad reporting, I guess I could see why he would be mad. I think he's still mad at the media for the election coverage. I also think more people need to watch and read more than one news source. I wouldn't touch Fox News or Breitbart (because I can't take them seriously, though it depends what the programming is on Fox News), but I watch NBC, ABC, CBS and read CNN and the Chicago Tribune. I even watch C-Span and listen to NPR. I think fake news is a perception that is made after someone forwards something on social media and people complain. Or it is when there is actually bad reporting.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) Cubs tax = lost Sox revenue from the fact that their inter-city rival and defending World Champs get better with Quintana. Okay, I thought it literally had to do with the CBA.

I'm a moderate who voted for Obama twice and Kasich in the primary. I would have voted for Bernie or Biden in the general election but picked Clinton because she was the lesser of two evils as a person. The only thing I agree with Trump on is that jobs should not be leaving the US and companies should be punished in some way, shape or form for pushing them overseas. I am concerned about the republican agenda that I think will go down - slashing entitlements, building a wall that doesn't help the deficit, somehow sitting on their hands when Trump works with Putin and of course, appointing at least two Supreme Court justices if one passes while he is in office. I worry about what they could do to gay rights in addition to overturning Roe v Wade completely. I sincerely hope he doesn't get us into any wars while he is in office as well. I think the question is, how do democrats recover from this and regain some seats in 2018? Will someone like Colorado's governor (his name escapes me), Kirsten Gillibrand, Kampala Harris or Cory Booker be able to win the Presidency back in 2020, or will we have to see his 74 year old ass in office for another four years? And, how can democrats connect with voters who believe Trump will bring their jobs back (not happening because of automation)? I've read these threads for awhile and wanted to see what you all thought about some of these questions? Edit: What should journalists do to protect themselves and the truth in the Trump era?

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 02:15 AM) Because you're not factoring in the Cubs tax that makes a deal with them not feasible. This may have already been explained, but can you or someone explain this to me? How much cash would the Sox have to throw in to offset, say, Robertson's contract if it were Quintana? Or if it's just Quintana? What kind of dollars are we talking about here?

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) My impression (never been in radio) is that it is a demotion. I have never felt DiCaro or Rongey were "higher up" than Abbatacola. It is super weird that a guy so active at the company is suddenly "demoted". Maybe there's more we don't know. Nice display name, BTW. Thanks - it's a New Era after the Northsiders won the WS and the Sox started the rebuild. There is more to all of this, but I bet it is politics. The show enjoyed great ratings and was funny under Abbatacola's watch. I would think maybe they wanted to keep Shepkowski at the Score and told Abbatacola that he's a sub for when hosts are out, just like Rozner.

If Quintana isn't traded by SoxFest, I think all signs point to him being on the Sox roster in 2017. These rumors have dried up and there's nothing new happening. My guess is he will be traded at the deadline, along with Robertson and possibly Cabrera and Frazier for beer and possibly a plate of nachos.

I approached Bernstein not too long ago about the show, saying Matt would be a nice addition. He went off on me, saying that it's out of his control and he's not one of upper management even though someday he would like to be. Abbatacola's role is definitely a demotion. It makes me wonder if Julie DaCarrio and Chris Rongey are getting the axe. I don't buy the argument of having to move away and take a chance and come back to Chicago to get a talent job. Shepkowski didn't leave even though he has Matt's old job. I stopped myself from majoring in journalism and radio/TV for crap like this. You really have to get lucky to get a paying job and then play the politics to be on air talent. Abbatacola's demotion doesn't make sense, and I hope that he f***s with the Score somehow and goes to AM 1000.

Nice podcast, I turned off an hour of Dan Bernstein to listen to some White Sox baseball talk. Please keep talking about the guys in the minors so that I can continue to educate myself as a fan. If it's not too much trouble to discuss and define advanced baseball stats that are referenced on this site, I would love hearing about those as well.

My dad wrote Brooks Boyer after this game, telling him he didn't see baseball that day and wasn't sure what exactly he saw but he demanded his money back. Instead of getting his money back, he got five free tickets to a future Sox game. Twins beat White Sox 20-1. Also, I was at this wonderful game as well.

One of my favorite games I attended:

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/813749518969737216 Because of the holiday I thought that talks would resume this week and Hahn would get a deal done by the new year. We will see if that is the case, but I sincerely hope the Sox eat enough of Robertson's contract to bring back prospects with Quintana. Though you'd have to think Hahn would say to Cashman that he is getting Quintana at a decent rate so he will have to give prospects without considering Robertson's contract as too much of a problem in a deal. Any thoughts on why the Yankees want Robertson when they have Chapman? Is it a replacement for Miller?

My birthday game a few years ago.

Nice segment raBBit, you sounded a lot more educated than the usual suspects on that show. For those of you who want a summary, there wasn't much more than we've already discussed here. He brought up the individual players, how the Pirates have budget constraints so they may need to deal McCutchen, discussed the Sox new moves internally with scouting and player development and discussed the packages that Hahn might come back with (likely four players). Futuresox.com was mentioned as well.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) You're right, if it isn't on twitter, it isn't official. Why did you want to punch me in the face on twitter because of something I posted here that had zero to do with you? Why didn't you post something here that you wanted to punch me in the face? If rabbit or Kyle want to call me a dick, what do I care? They wouldn't know me if I standing right in front of them. But you are the guy that posted for all to see you wanted to punch me in the face on twitter for something I posted here. I was alerted to it. I don't follow you at all, although I did give you credit for things you did break. You are an internet tough guy. I read some of the stuff, and you want to punch a lot of people. I would love to get it on youtube because I am sure you would miss. I would like to see said video so I have more context for the argument, but really, I think both of you should stop and focus on something that is actually meaningful here - a White Sox rebuild. I'm not a mod or admin or anything but man there's more to focus on than an argument over cyberspace.

QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:43 AM) An elite staff sure is exciting as well as a line up like this DH - Fisher* C - Collins* 1B - Bell# 2B - Newman SS - Anderson 3B - FA - Machado or Donaldson in the 18 offseason or Nolan Arenado in the '19 offseason LF - Call CF - Moncada# RF - Basabe # The lineup looks intriguing if everyone pans out. You can't just have an elite staff or some great arms and not have any Sox home runs fly out to the Cell's outfield seats though if you want to win. I am fine if RH makes the deal with the Pirates, but I hope that they really focus on getting some position players up there so we as fans can have something special to watch. I'm with whoever says to get the best available talent but we really can't afford to go back to the old ways of dumping prospects for veterans ever again.

Do we have any rumors or any meaningful conversation or do I have to read since page 174?

So, since Spanky Eaton isn't a part of the organization any longer...can I have my name be New Era on South Side instead? Or Brass Balls Hahn? Also, why is it that when I log in and try to post, it says I'm logged out?

Come on Boston, swoop in and blow the Nats out of the water! Otherwise, I bet Harper and Sale are teammates by tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully the Sox do the Northsider and do a complete, not half assed rebuild. Trade your major leaguers and put your balls on the table Rick Hahn! Then give KW the finger. I doubt we hear anything until tomorrow, JR probably went to bed...

I went to Another Round in Downers Grove today and met both Abbatacola and Bernstein. Bernstein is a short dude and is not that tough off the air like he is on the air, even though he still doesn't listen to you unless you interject. He didn't really want to address how to have a "good" call with him after I brought it up and probably prefers arguing with callers over the air. Abbatacola was a great guy, hope he gets Terry's spot.

This is off topic, but if anyone has podcasting equipment or has a podcast, let me know. I'm trying to determine what to buy so a buddy of mine and I can do a podcast. There's some equipment on Amazon for $100. Also, I liked that podcast some posters did back in the day...Sox N Roll? I forget what it was called but it was the s***.