The Beast

Hahaha! Crazy thought, but what if they kept Andrus at short and had Anderson DH to start? I’m not so sure they DFA Harrison but I don’t see another move outside of optioning Gonzalez.

Kelly Wunsch got revenge just now for getting hit with a batter ball and throwing it down the line in the 2000 ALDS.

This might be silly, but, when Anderson comes back, does Romy get sent down and where does Andrus play? This is under the assumption they won’t DFA Harrison.

Ah Rodon. Someone they should have offered the QO to. And someone that people said Kopech would replace. Oh well.

Cool, I have a friend who is passively looking for a Payton which is why I asked. That seems like a good price.

He didn’t get a good read on a ball to him that caused a run to score. An outfielder would have made that catch. And the coaching staff and the catchers that don’t catch don’t seem to care when a play isn’t made and runners move up 90 feet.

They remind me of Adam Dunn playing in a Sox uniform in a NL ballpark.

Also LOL at Sheets and Eloy in the outfield.

Lol @ Vaughn in the outfield

1. A person can change their mind and think differently when presented with another argument. Maybe you’ve convinced me to think differently, so it’s best to move on to the next point of Sheets and Vaughn. The reason I even mentioned the loss of production is that I can envision a scenario where Abreu is gone and people complain that production is missing. 2. I’m not really married to the idea that anyone is unmovable on this team. They probably won’t trade Vaughn, but if the offer is there, they should consider taking it. Like I said, it probably won’t happen. And yes, maybe I undervalue the return for Sheets. We will see if he is worth something, only the offseason will tell. 3. I haven’t seen many position players signings that are at least three years and see a lot of one or two year deals with options. I’d like to see an investment from them in a multi year deal on a starting position player from outside the organization. I haven’t seen that beyond Grandal and we know he had been underwhelming. We will see if he spends $38M towards a starting position player and a starting pitcher. Let’s see what the offseason brings.

At least you have offered a suggestion of how to fix holes with a trade possibility to Milwaukee whereas others have just clung to Andrew Vaughn as an untouchable.

Pictures of some of these would be cool to see. How much is the Payton worth?

The media training is really shining through with some of these quotes.

You keep coming back to this point about letting Abreu walk. I am more interested in what happens to Sheets and Vaughn, the guys who are not outfielders. Let’s say Abreu walks, then they decide to put Vaughn or Sheets at first. I don’t think they need both of them and I am not a Vaughn fanboy like others are so I am not opposed to trading him. I also didn’t say they needed to trade both of them, that is probably the worst idea. Vaughn probably is more valuable as a trade chip to other teams, depending on what the Sox can get in return. Many people did not want to trade him for Montas and I am not sure if those same people will want to move him for someone else that can help the team. If they can deal Sheets instead of Vaughn and get the piece they need for the rotation with multiple years of team control and not a rental, I am for that. Lastly, you must have more faith that Reinsdorf will pony up the money needed to get an every day starting player out in free agency. I haven’t seen it other than the many relievers they signed in free agency. You could blame last offseason on Hahn, but it doesn’t seem like JR is willing to pay a premium to get the right pieces at the right positions. I guess we will see what happens.

And yet, they will never win a World Series with him as manager so he can just collect his checks in Minnesota like Gardenhire did.

I’m not sure why this is so difficult for posters to understand, as well as the need to remove the logjam from first base types in the outfield. They need to do this with one of Vaughn or Sheets EVEN IF Abreu walks.

Looking at the offseason moves for next year: - Another one year special for Giolito - A dislodging of Vaughn and Sheets at the corner outfield. They are not corner outfielders so stop putting them out there and deal one to get a starting pitcher. - A decision on Abreu, Harrison - A replacement for Cueto

Sure would be nice if the offense actually hit and scored some runs for him though.

You were saying? He just bailed Giolito out there on a ball to Sanchez.

He doesn’t have Buehrle in him. He’s fighting Todd Ritchie most of the time. They better not give him a long term deal. Also Kopech has a skinny Rod Beck look to him with that facial hair.

Say f***.

Does anyone think that Len would prefer to be doing radio 100% of the time since that is why he left the Cubs? If Benetti leaves, I can’t see Len wanting the play by play job.

Okay fine. Still, people have a huge hard on for Vaughn and Sheets and they need to break the logjams that exist and stop platooning at positions where they should have actual established starters instead of first basemen in the outfield. I also just don’t trust that Reinsdorf will pump more money into the payroll make upgrades the team really needs. If Abreu goes, they have to make acquisitions to benefit the team with the money they would have spent on him. We don’t need another situation where they let someone like Rodon go and replace with an internal option like Kopech when they should have added to the roster with another starting pitcher (Cueto was also not that addition, he was an after thought).

Kelly is the perfect DFA candidate next year if he sucks. Too bad Hahn needed all of the relievers.

Will they actually use the $4M saved to improve the team elsewhere or is it going in JR’s personal expense account? I’d say that one of the young middle infielders would be fine, but they could always add a veteran like they did with Andrus if the young guy isn’t performing. Yeah I would have thought Davis Martin was who should have started. Maybe Kelly has been so ineffective in relief this year they thought trying him as a starter would make sense, even if he was just an opener?