The Beast

Good, especially since they shouldn’t have lost the first game.

I still want to understand the rationale behind not getting the second dose from people who only got the first dose. P.S. What do people make of the Dow drop today as it relates to the Delta variant? Will it continue?

That’s the tough part, too many people don’t take time to understand the context of things and just read the headlines or the opening paragraphs and fail to understand the context. For example, the other day Fauci said that booster shots aren’t needed and that was the headline. What was left out of that headline is that he said they aren’t needed at this time with the data they have and that could change. I probably overconsume the news with reading Politico, The Bulwark, CNN, the Chicago Tribune, sampling what is up at Fox News and even Breitbart, as well as listen to “Hacks on Tap,” “The Daily,” “Punchbowl News,” “The Rundown with Hugh Hewitt,” “Politico: Dispatch” and “The Axe Files.” But I find that varying what I read can help me understand people better especially when I am reading Facebook conversations with conservative folks. I still can’t fully understand people who don’t do vaccines because they don’t want anything in their body, the people who are anti-vaccine or the vaccine hesitant, but I am fairly interested in their excuses and arguments against getting them. I think you’re right in what will happen next with their reasons, they may shift the arguments and continue to not get vaccinated. My wife and I were discussing how it is that schools know if kids are vaccinated or not for the required vaccines to attend schools. Is it documentation and a physical from a physician? She said that there’s a flagging for kids who haven’t gotten the vaccine at the high school but I’m not sure administratively and also in terms of privacy how information is managed to determine who is admitted or not. I would think the states would determine what vaccines are required to attend schools and that they would make the call on the Covid vaccine too. What is interesting is even though many Trump supporters know he got the vaccine, they aren’t going to get it and fall into their excuses. I know people think independently of him but if they drink the koolaid on other things, it’s surprising they won’t follow his lead with getting the vaccine. Yep, this is why more moderate candidates win in elections. They represent more people than progressives or the far right. Greg, why are you so vague with what you say on the board? Without having to Google what company and leader you are talking about, why not just say it? Do you think the government isn’t already doing something with reviewing posts? Big brother is probably watching whether you like it or not. I don’t see the government commenting on people’s posts as much as I think medical staff is assisting with flagging to show why things are misinformation instead of Facebook’s staff just making the call on these kinds of posts. When I think of posts that get flagged I am thinking of the memes people share rather than their posts. Memes come from a source or individual with followers and misinformation is spread. The average person posting the statement you said probably isn’t who they are looking at. I doubt people who are hesitant or anti vaccine are wanting to listen to athletes or politicians. They need to hear from medical personnel and more specifically their own doctor, rather than be swayed by media, social media or famous people. The door to door idea isn’t for all areas, it’s a targeted approach that focuses on underserved regions. It’s probably better that people be given information spoken to them at their door rather than funneled through whatever media or social media they consume, especially if they only review one source. But I don’t think much outreach will get people to get the vaccine. Lastly, and this is for everyone here, I really wish I understood why a good percentage of the people with one dose just stopped there and didn’t get the second dose. What happened?

Politico is my new favorite just because of the data they present and the reporting they get on things that people comment on. They have long articles but they have the most depth out of what I read. So it would take more leaders to respect science, disregard misinformation and make things less political when it comes to battling the pandemic. I would think things would be different with people like Boehner, Ryan, Pelosi under Bush and some of the other politicians of the past since bipartisanship didn’t seem to be as difficult then. Not having social media in the 90s and early 00s would definitely have helped too. It’s an accelerant that contributes to misinformation.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around this - what if the FDA gives full approval for the vaccines and states start mandating vaccines to go to school? How are the other illnesses and diseases children get vaccinated for different from COVID? Is the argument just that there’s many more years and lots of research with the mandated vaccines than the vaccines we currently have? Edit: Did people complain about individual rights this much when the Patriot Act was in play? Not equal by comparison at all, just wondering.

If COVID had been around pre-Obama and pre-Trump, I wonder how we would have fared in the Bush and Clinton years.

I’m not sure there are middle of the road sources. I try to read a mix of everything to see what common facts there are in different stories. It’s not perfect and I don’t agree with a lot of what I read, but it’s important to read as much as possible from both persuasions. There are even sites like the Bulwark that also serve as news aggregators with links to click on. I got a different perspective from the Hill from Joe Manchin than I did at CNN on the reconciliation bill, for instance.

Greg, do you feel there is harm being done if the surgeon general staff is flagging posts for review if it is indeed misinformation? Flagging doesn’t mean automatically removing content, although it might come with a sub content bar directing to a source. What else could be done if misinformation is spread and it is potentially harmful to people?

What is even more important than arguing about media platforms is people viewing/reading more than one media source and listening to people they don’t agree with. That’s how I think readers “get things straight” as Bill said.

Well he could be useful, replace Rizzo or DH or he could just be another Rutherford.

Greg, how could we be done with COVID despite future outbreaks? If lockdowns and restrictions didn’t occur, more people would have caught the virus and died…

Greg, do they not trust him because he changes his answers as time goes on? Because sometimes that is just science, new information and data changes advice.

Good thing they picked Hendriks up in the tenth to get the sweep, but they need to tighten up the bullpen if they want to win in the playoffs.

Let the record show that as of 7/11, fully vaccinated people do not need boosters but that could change as the data changes according to Dr. Fauci. https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/07/11/anthony-fauci-vaccine-booster-shots-sotu-vpx.cnn

Is there a way to quantify the impact La Russa has had on the team and their success this year? I watch these games and don’t know how much credit he deserves for the team’s overall performance. He can make pitching changes, substitutions and lineups, but I don’t know if you can credit him with wins because of his decisions. I’d have to look back to see if anything he did paid off and led the team to a win. I can separate my thoughts and opinions about him with his DUIs, but I don’t know how much credit La Russa deserves for the success they have had this year.

Same shit, different day.

Apparently some of us need to be shut down until we kiss TLR’s ring and apologize too.

Anger at their stupidity and at how they question things rather than focus on solutions to this virus. Greg, as caufield said, they are probably going to poor and underserved areas. They might try in rural area where they are getting bad information. If they decline, then fine, that’s their individual right. But they have no one to blame but themselves if they get infected. I hope the Biden administration has a great strategy for vaccinating kids and getting the boosters out, then the unvaccinated have to re-evaluate their decision.

No, what happened with the La Russa hire is that he had two DUIs and got out of them being the Hall of Fame baseball person he is. Also didn’t like how JR hired his guy without discussion and consideration for Hahn’s guy. La Russa may do well for the rest of the tenure here, but I won’t be praising him as much as the players if he wins anything. Exactly.

Do you mean in terms of strategy and line up construction? Okay, sure, but in terms of the players he has, no way, this is auto pilot. Either way I’m not kissing his feet and apologizing to TLR as the OP asks.

Apologize for what? He’s got a team that is pretty much one he could run on autopilot compared to what his predecessor had. I give more credit to the players stepping up than I do La Russa managing.

My post from last night’s game thread aged well. I’ll eat crow.

I guess they better DFA Eaton now, right guys? Hmmmm

Damaso Marte Royce Clayton Jim Parque Todd Ritchie David Wells Adam Dunn Jeff Keppinger Billy Koch Danny Wright Robin Ventura as manager

Would much rather see them strike Donaldson out four times than throw at him and motivate the last place Twins especially when the Sox need to get on the right track as a shaky first place team.