The Beast

I found this and thought I would share, if there’s anything anyone else has read that says otherwise, I’d love to see it: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2Er0HzsJKnjckwqNpHGS8l8oablOhdLmAp1d8u8iX55s4HjQbXu6QYkuk

Put him in a business office somewhere, he’s more of an accountant isn’t he? One of the guys Jason suggested would be great but I also would like to see Borganzi get a shot.

Trubisky walks. Borganzi hired, Pace out, Phillips is kicked to an office somewhere on the business side, Nagy has a year before the GM decides what to do. See what happens with the salary cap. Bears decide to cut wherever necessary - Graham, Massie, Leno, Skrine. Consider trading Hicks or Fuller. Keep Mack and Quinn (they could cut him in 2022 and eat the dead money). See if Robinson is your guy or not or go get someone like Godwin. Draft offensive line first, quarterback or replacement for Hicks or Fuller second. Sign someone to compete with Foles and start that person. To me, that is more of a retooling than a rebuild. I am banking on this plan being more that this year was a down year and the defense will return and the offense finds its form. Like I said, I think a lot of Bears fans (not necessarily here) can easily complain and say fire Nagy and Pace but have no solutions.

No I’m not, I don’t think Nagy is necessarily the problem. There is more of an argument for Pace to go or get kicked up to another role in the organization and have Mike Borganzi be the GM instead. I am pointing out 2015 and 2016 as years where they were rebuilding. People really want them to tank and be that bad again? Watching the game today I saw more of a talent problem than Nagy as the problem. Mitch is a part of it, not dissecting defenses properly. They were also short on starters with Johnson, Skrine, Mooney and Smith out. The offense is sputtering, no doubt, but I see it as more of a personnel problem. I’d be fine with those guys or Borganzi as GM and kicking Pace up in the organization somewhere or firing him and bringing any ones we are discussing in. I see lots of Bears fans saying they want Pace and Nagy gone but have no names for who should come in. A problem the Bears will have is the number of openings across the league and they would be behind in interviewing and competing for those they would hire. This was also a down year with injuries and players like Goldman opting out. The glaring depth issues they had were also very evident over the last two weeks. With some changes to personnel, drafting OL high, quarterbacks like Trask in the second round and hitting on more players through the draft (along with firs round picks since they don’t owe anything else for Mack) or free agency I think they could be better.

Who would you rather see instead for GM and head coach? He’s probably back because of the amount of openings around the league. So is Nagy or his OC calling the plays? Trubisky and the offensive players might not be getting it done, no? Ha! And what are two names you would rather see as GM and Head Coach? Let’s hear them. So the offense from 2018 has no shot at coming back? How many injuries did they have this year? It was a different team, I don’t know that they could have gotten better results with what they had, even though I was intrigued by Ridley late and wondered if he was slower than Wims which is why he didn’t play until late since they needed Wims for the long ball. What two names do you want to see to replace Pace and Nagy? Who would you replace Nagy and presumably Pace with? What two names? Seems to me they have been constantly rebuilding, so why dismantle now? Fire sales don’t always work in the NFL. Retooling might be better. Yes I fucking do. Much rather this then a team like they had in 2015 and 2016. What specifically would be the plan and who are the two names to replace Nagy and Pace?

Either way, we are all watching and investing time into a team that has had eight playoff games and three wins since 2000. LOL

Shelley is having a good game today. I would love to know why the defensive backs are so far back off of the line though. Fuller’s coverage on Thomas was awful on this particular drive. Nagy is going to get hammered and could get fired for this game, but some of these players need to go. Pace hasn’t hit on enough to keep his job as GM.

Larry Hogan, Charlie Baker? Yeah, you could argue Biden, but I don’t know how conservative he is fiscally. Amen. Although I think Trump still might have won because people were intrigued by him, although many hated Hillary.

What politicians are closest to that?

How are Biden’s policies socialist and how is the sausage made in congress?

It would seem that the first few things they will want to do is roll out the COVID relief bill to increase payments. I do wonder if they will limit the payments by means testing it, making those who received payments before but did not need the money will have to show financial hardship to get more payments. From there I wonder if he will want to try and get the immigration bill passed and add a public option to the ACA. Infrastructure could be a part of the recovery bill if it is tied to an increase in payments. I’ll be curious to the objections though. But they should pass bipartisan immigration reform, it is entirely possible to do so with this congress. I guess, but I think there is more to it than him hurting people. How did Obama forget about them? Did his recovery bill not boost them or did the lack of trade policies to fix the past not help the Democrats with voters? There has to be more although many just liked him and his policies, even if he lied to them. And yet, somehow the $100-$200 from the tax bill seems to have made the difference for some people. Wonder what messaging could help the Democrats. I wouldn’t count Larry Hogan out if he were to run, especially if the progressive wing of the congress has their way. He is popular in his state and could appeal to different kinds of republicans. Hopefully this means there is no recount or lawsuits filed. It’s hard to believe that news got gobbled up by Wednesday’s unfortunate events. Cool how Ossoff was more of a long shot but won a full term. Would they do that through legislation, just like the ideas of packing the courts? Seems risky to use political capital on that. We can only hope that the rural voters change their minds after things have not been delivered for them economically.

I want to know if the Biden administration will speed the vaccinations up. They seem to be very slow moving with a lot of the public wondering when they’ll be vaccinated while essential workers appear to slowly get their vaccines.

PMs with this kind of discussion could last, but some posters won’t last. I can’t understand people who voted Republican, are highly intelligent and voted for him a second time. I also want to know if the white working class had always been for republican presidents in our history. Were they Reagan Democrats? Did they support Bush? Or did they vote for Democrats and flip to Trump? I wonder what policies Democrats could have done to gain these people throughout the years, though.

We had some good conversations over PM too and he identified me as being someone he knew from long ago on these boards. It’s a small world that he came back after all of this time and remembered who I was. We had some very civil conversations there and he knew a lot about foreign policy, which I appreciated since I know very little (I care more about domestic policy).

Hopefully lessons were learned and the inauguration is more on lockdown than yesterday was. Security should be beefed up like it was for the BLM protests (whether that was right or not) to keep the new administration safe. He was here late last night reading when I was reading here and watching CSPAN. Thank god. Crazy how much has changed since the other night when they won!

Should be: Mully and Haugh from 5-9 Bernstein and Rahimi from 9-12 Holmes from 12-2 Parkins (and Spiegs, Rami or Anthony Herron) from 2-6 Ostrowski from 6-10 Overnights with the Grobber

I would think so. To me it makes more sense to remove him under the 25th amendment and put Pence in charge for the last few weeks rather than put the country through another impeachment trial.

https://apple.news/AY827ZaFURiuYBoNINsWRRg

McConnell appeared to shut down the PA debate (I think, unless nobody had anything to say) and seven senators voted yea. Sounds like they won’t reconvene for business until tomorrow.

Pennsylvania’s did not...yet. Edit: Are they going in alphabetical order of states?

https://twitter.com/QTRResearch/status/1346911888173633536?s=20

Does Trump direct the defense department?

This just reminded me of Designated Survivor.

Warnock is as it stands right now, outside of the recount threshold. Purdue or Ossoff is obviously a different story. https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Georgia

Without question but I appreciate the moderators and admins keeping it open for as long as you all did. Thanks again.