The Beast

This thread is unpredictable, we go from talking about Machado, to hats, to contracts, to psychological testing, to the Cubs, to reinsurance (two gentlemen got it right!) and now we are back to Manny.? Bernstein, Campy and Rosenbloom were talking about this today. They were debating going all in and giving a final offer by a certain deadline, saying here is the best offer and having another team match it but the Sox then get the last look or they would just stand pat and wait this out. Campy thought they would go all in and up the offer and Bernstein thought they would stay put.

I couldn’t find a video, but this is the best article I found to confirm the answer: http://articles.latimes.com/2001/may/11/sports/sp-62238

I thought he ripped his triceps diving for a ball at first base in 2001.

If only the reactions could be like this for when that happens... ?Imagine if that would be possible. It’s why we have to use the laughing emoji to be snarky. In all seriousness though it depends on the dollar amount. If they didn’t offer him something and someone outbids is, fans should lose their shit. And ownership should be prepared for losing ticket sales they might have had with Machado in the fold.

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Does a Joc trade make sense if Machado doesn’t sign? I guess we have to see how the roster shapes up first.

Not from what I can tell. I think wsd was drunk and Chili’s source had something that was just fluid.

Before I passed out last night, I saw the Padres payroll. They can definitely offer Machado a decent chunk of money like the Sox can. The Phillies can as well, but not as much as the Padres or Sox. I think it is down to us and them with the Phillies as the wild card. The Sox should be able to pull it out if their offer is at least $30 million a year. Now I wonder if he would accept 7 or 8 years at $30 million per year. I can understand why a team wouldn’t want to tie up $35 million a year in a player, but maybe they have offered more upfront with opt outs and incentives for the later part of their offer. But Hahn, like John Fox, doesn’t say anything so it is hard to tell where we stand. Yes I know he won’t comment on active negotiations.

I almost wish he would have said, “We feel good about where we are at” and lie to us rather than issue the statement he did today.

I will, but I honestly don’t know what else could be up his sleeve if they miss out on Machado or Harper. Moustakas? Keuchel? I don’t know.

I don’t get the argument that if the Sox were rejected this year, it would bode well for future years of being at the table for those future years. Players could just chose other teams even if we offered the most. I can’t see why the Sox would want to go after mega deals unless it was for Arenado or pitchers like Sale.

Prove it Hahn. Jackass. Also prove that the $175 million offer is bullshit.

How so?

The majority of hosts are Sox fans and you would think with some of the hosts being analytically literate that they would talk about the Sox and Cubs. Their guests have gotten pretty random in the afternoons and the only listen I can tolerate for hours is Bernstein and McKnight. The pot smoking gambling fools in the afternoon are obnoxious and don’t provide that much insight. It’s a Cubs station but they aren’t serving the public much. Heck, I get more analysis out of Spiegs than I do Mac and Parkins combined.

If only we knew what was offered to prove the validity of that statement.

Their dumbass Cubs fan Parkins doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to the Sox and baseball in general.

They won’t be saving the money they have pocketed for free agents in the future if they miss out. That was another argument on 670 today. Sports radio screws with the mind.

And Danny Parkins thinks it’s okay for them to miss out on Machado and Harper since it bodes well for them to be at the table in the future. I’m not sure if it works that way or how it benefits the Sox.

I would buy some sort of ticket package and split it with friends, definitely. Only if Machado signs though.

Make the last part that piece of shit Pedro Strop and I’m in.

Yes but he made it seem like there were more details about it so maybe it is a coordinated move.

We better get something this weekend based on what rabbit said the other day...

10 am on Saturday is when fans with balls get to ask Hahn some legitimate questions instead of some casual questions.

Can’t wait for rabbit’s statements to come to light. Getting impatient with all that we can’t know and won’t know. Spring training can’t come fast enough.