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Tanking for usre played a part, but it cannot be the whole picture. Their scouting and player development people seem to know what they are doing. In hindsight, Rick Hahn and company didn't bottom out enough after the Sale trade. The Sox really needed to put together at least 3 or 4 straight years of 110 plus losses to guarantee a couple draft picks at 1.1 and 1.2.

How in the world did Baltimore acquire so many legit prospects? Their farm system is something else.

The Sox should have become an internet meme back in the early days of the rebuild as well. They didn't bottom out enough back then and never got the 1.1 pick multiple years. Totally cratering with 3 or 4 or 5 100 loss seasons in a row would have helped the rebuild big time. It is how you end up with dudes like Bregman, Correa, and Ruschtmann instead of Nick Madrigal and Andrew Vaughn.

TLR was in no way, shape, or form the only problem with the White Sox during his tenure here. The problems started way before TLR's arrival when your guy Rick Hahn traded a future hall of fame pitcher to Boston for a bunch of stiffs. TLR hung an absolute nobody and a total basketcase out to dry in Yermin Mercedes. This had no bearing on the Sox falling apart whatsoever. His whole Mercedes thing is quite comical and absurb actually. The whole Sox rebuild did not collapse because TLR hung an absolute stiff like Yermin Mercedes "out to dry". Last I checked Yermin Mercedes was totally out of professional baseball. The rebuild collapsed mainly becuase it was architected by one of the worst general managers in the history of baseball.

Yep. MLB as an employer has every right to do business with legal sportsbooks and write out a policy that places restirctions on what players and employees of mlb can bet on. If the players or employyes of mlb don't like the company policy, then they are free to find another job. Also, every major sports organization sells booze and has partnerships with companies that produce alcholic beverages. Hell, Nascar has lucrative parternships with beer companies, Doesn't mean that they still don't have a policy that drivers can't participate in races while under the influence of alcholol.

I'm calling BS on the high roller at many casinos statement. True high rollers do not make announcements like that on social media.

Monster year for him so far. Him and Witt Junior both going to finish in the top 5 for MVP if they keep it up all year.

Nope. Madrigal was a wasted pick the second it was announced. Tanked a whole year and used a top 5 pick on a guy who can barely clear the yard with a wooden bat during batting practice.

Wait what happened here? Also, whatever happened to the Yerminator? Last I heard he was playind down in Mexico or something?

Yep. TLR might have been a washed up drunk, but the dude had been around professional ballplayers for decades. He knew that he had a bunch of prima donnas and china dolls on the roster and tried to delay the inevitable injuries for as long as possible.

LMAO. Every Sox loss was a national news story and covered like the Yankees? Is this a comedy bit?

Starting to seem like it. TLR knew that he had a bunch of prima donnas and china dolls on his roster and that he needed to buck conventional thinking to alleviate big time injuries. in retrospect it is pretty amazing that TLR was able to lead the Sox to a division title. His tenure with the White Sox will be looked at a little more fondly once a couple decades past.

Why do you keep repeating that national news organizations care about the White Sox? The White Sox are an afterthought in the Chicago Sports media market. No one at the national level like CCN gives one sh*t about them.

Isn't here like half a billion dollars of unpaid debt still left on the Soldier Filed renovations? How are they going to make that debt magically disappear?

Haven't heard much about the new stadium in the media lately. Who in their right mind would put up close to a billion dollars to finance a stadium for this trainwreck of an organization?

This isn't just bad baseball though. This is historically bad baseball. it is absolutley unwatchable. At least with Cease or Sale you could tune in every 5 days. Or with Burger there was always a chance for a Burger bomb and the dude appeared to actually play with some hustle.

Likely nothing as long as JR is the owner and Chris Getz the General Manager. Hopefully this offeason the team attempts to build around Robert and Crochet by signing some veteran free agents who aren't totally washed up. They should also try to identify which of their top prospects are really just fools gold and trade them for some players who can make an immediate impact. Would you include Louis Robert in the category of "core" players that were held onto too long? Acquiring multiple blue chippers is a lot easier said than done. Most Sox fans I know have very little interest in sitting through another 4-5 tank job of unwatchable baseball.

I think the point you are missing is that some of us don't really get a crap about prospect capital at this point. We already played that game before and struck out badly. Chris Sale or Dylan Cease pitching every 5 days was at least a reason to turn on the television and watch a game. There is really no reason to turn on the game right now and watch this hot pile of garbage. Another tank job will not work!

There a few of us around here who have been saying this for quite some time. The only chance this team has for any kind of success as long as JR is the owner is the catch lighting in a bottle approach. As you mention option 1 leaves us with one of the worst baseball rosters ever assembled at a time where they aren't even eligible to get the #1 pick in 2025. Rick Hahn and company started the Sox tank job right after the Astros and Cubs turned into behemoths via the tank job route. Problem was those front offices were extraordinary and willing to put in the work. The Sox front office was the opposite. The Sox didn't need to trade away Dylan Cease, Jake Burger, or Aaron Bummer. Wouldn't have made much of a difference most likely, but trading away those guys pretty much signaled the start of another tank job era on the South Side.

It's not just this year for Eder though. He has been terrible since the Sox acquired him and hasn't shown any signs of getting better yet. Jake Burger has proven he can hit major league pitching and is a power bat that the Sox offense could use right about now. Again, Rick and Kenny were not even in communication with each other on this trade. Bad process on a horrible trade.

Are you sure about that? There are rumors out there that dumb and dumbere, er I mean Rick and Kenny, were not even in communication with each other on this trade. Eder is currently sporting an era over 7 at AA. Burger has proven he is a legit power bat at the major league level. Sorry, but it was a teriible trade.

Not everyone was on board with the Sale and Eaton trades. Some people recognized that the Rick Hahn/KW general managing duo would have little to zero chance of sustained success. They were chased away at the time by the Rick Hahn fanboys, but history has proven the Hahn "haters" correct. Letting Rick Hahn and KW architect the tank job and "rebuild" was such a colossal mistake.

It will be interesting to see how the Sox marketing team plays this as the season grinds on. There could be an opportunity to promote the hisorical suckage in a savvy way come late September. It would be something to see a sold outSox Park rooting for the opposotion as the Sox approach 120 losses.

The City of Chicago needs every penny of tax reveunue it can get. It will not want divert any of the amusement tax to other sources. Reinsdorf has very little leverage here. He is going to start talking publiclicly about moving the team again pretty soon. It's the only play the old timer still has at this point.

Turned out to be a pretty shitty trade for the Sox now 7 and a half years later. Kopech and Moncada both turned out to be epic busts. Sale was injured a lot in Boston but helped them win a championship and flags fly forever.