LittleHurtCG

What's going on with the politics in Nevada?

Bears didnt draft either of those guys. Chicago sports media gonna have a field day if Poles trades down and takes Maye.

I agree, but this is so much easier said than done. People make high level decisions based simply on a narrative all the time. I think Poles is gonna play it safe and take Caleb #1 though.

Mitch Trubisky. The kid with the rocket arm from North Carolina..

I don't see the Bears trading down to take Maye. Maye went to school at North Carolina and that qb experience already failed miserably. Probably pretty dumb to base a decision on something like that, but it will 100% play a factor in Poles thinking. The storylines will write themselves if Maye struggles in the slighest.

This is pretty spot on. Apathy and exhaustion runs deep in White Sox nation right now. Are a bunch of tourists and loop office workers gonna be rushing out to fill a stadium of a team that is one of the worse and least exciting in major league baseball? No changing of the law for JR and his billionaire cronies. He can afford to pay for the stadium on his own or find a way to finance it without taking the taxpayers of Illinois for a ride once again.

Why aren't we talking about extending Dylan Cease? Give the kid a nice extension in a few months if he is having a good first half. He can hold down the rotation until Schultz is ready and the Sox sign Corbin Burnes in the offeason.

You nailed it. These are all pipedreams until it is time for someone to pay up. When is the last time the city and state pulled off a 9 billion dollar private/public development? Another lakefront stadium for the Bears seems like a pipedream and like you said doesn't solve many of their current issues. It sounds like the Bears are having issues with financing and will go wherever they can milk the most out of taxpayers. The Sox never had any intention of signing Machado or Harper. "The $$$ will be spent was all a sleight of hand by JR and company. Why do the White Sox need bonds from the ISFA to build a new state of the art stadium? I thought Jerry had the financing all lined up and is ready to cut a billion dollar check?

I mean this a owner who still hasn't given out a $100 million contract. Color me skeptical that he would write out that check for 50 million from his own pocket.

First I've heard about the Bears wanting to shift away from Arlington Heights. Didn't they already buy all the land in AH and do a bunch of renderings of what the new stadium and surrounding area would look like? Where would they go on the lakefront? Would they put a massive domed stadium right on the lake?

Who is gonna cut that check for the remaining balance on GRF? I don't see Jerry lining up to do that. Also, the stadium would still exist in Bridgeport without a tenant and without revenue coming in. So the State of Illinois and/or City of Chicago would be part owners of the new stadium? Like I said, good luck with that. The private develepors are also going to be asking for $$ from the State and City. $$ that doesn't exist without new taxes or some sort.

It's pretty crazy to see both the Bears and Sox lining up for handouts from the State of Illinois. The State does not have hundreds of millions of dollars just laying around to give to Jerry McCaskey or Jerry Reinsdorf. The Sox won't leave Illinois if the new stadium plans fall through. There is nothing wrong with GRF. The thing that is rotten about the Sox is ownership. JR is using this new stadium ploy to drive up the value of the Sox. Hopefully the dude just sells the team sometime soon and screws off.

There is still 50 million dollars to be paid off on GRF. They are talking about this development being a 8 billion dollar project. No existing hotel tax is going to come close to covering that. Also, would the State and/or city then own a major share of the ballpark? Most owners seem to want to own their new stadiums outright these days. Agree 100%. JR and company need to worry about putting a competitive team out on the filed first and foremost. The Rate would bumping and packed every night of the Summer if the Sox actually had a fun and exciting team to watch. JR is going to be in for a very rude awakening once it comes time to talk about the financing. This is not the 1980s anymore. The political and economical landscape of the City have changed tremendously since the 1980s. There will be very little appetite for public funding on this.

Yeah this was the prequel to the failed rebuild. "The money will be spent" Yadda Yadda Yadda. JR is supposed to be an amazing businessman no? If so, then he know all along that no player was going to turn down 50 million in guaranteed $$ to play one season with his BFF and brother in law.

And the Benintendi deal is already looking like a major flop and one the Sox would love to get out of. It seems like Jerry's main focus is on getting a new stadium lined up. No major signings are happening on the South Side anytime soon.

Yep. This is great for the Royals and great for Witt Junior. Dude is an awesome young player and fun as hell to watch. Bad bad news for us White Sox fans, however. We are already discussing trading Dylan Cease instead of giving him a contract extension. The Louie Robert trade talks will pickup steam next offseason as well most likely.

They do? Mena just turned 21 and has 130 innings at AA or above. I'm not seeing anyone else in the Sox minors with similar experience at that age. All of their other "similar" pitchers are two or three years older than Mena.

Not a bad idea. If he is doing well then the Sox can flip him at the trade deadline.

The Sox don't have enough of anything lol. They should be targeting dudes with high extremely high ceilings in any Cease trade. JR will never ever pony up for elite talent in free agency. The Sox are going to need to find their elite talent from within.

Exactly. Has anyone looked at who is filling out the roation after Cease? Half of the guys currently on the White Sox pitching staff are likely to be totally out of baseball or lingering as nothing but organizational depth in the minors within the next two-three years. Noah Schultz and maybe Nick Nastrini are the only guys who look like potentail difference makers down the road. The rest look like a bunch of Jonathan Stievers and Spencer Adams to me.

Yes. The Dodgers are perennial World Series contenders. White Sox on the other hand...

Not sure how anyone can say with a straight face that the Sox have a surplus of pitching. Teams with a surplus of pitching, if something like that even exists, either have top 5 farm systems or are perennial world series contenders. The Sox are neither of those things.

Yep. The current setup at GRF is very kid friendly. Pretty easy to park and head right into the stadium. A stadium in the south loop is going to awesome for the younger crowd. Not so much of a draw for suburban families and old timers.

Concur. We all know guys like Snell, Montgomery, and Bellinger will never happen in a million years, but they should have spent more on 1 year deals for a few more players with upside potential. This organization has already shown that they do not have the infrastucture in place to do a total rebuild. Trying to catch lighting in a bottle is the only way forward as long as JR is the owner.

Let's say Cease has a rough first half. Do you take something similiar to what the Brewers got for Burnes at the trade deadline or do you keep demanding your way or the highway?