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White Sox stated they would follow the MLB/MLBPA policy agreement. If that is the case, that would indicate they would follow the commissioner’s disciplinary decision and that Clevinger would receive counseling. Unless Clevinger refuses that, I would bet my hat that he pitches for the Sox this year

I wasn’t aware of that. Still the apparent damage existed to where the scan was called for due to original diagnosis. There is nothing like that in Clevinger’s case. If Clevinger is suspended for say sixty games does anyone honestly believe JR is just going to eat that money. I don’t

I guess on further review, you may be right. I was thinking Q and Anderson among a a couple others, but it would be debatable. Still if he was going to get that I’d think he would have already signed

Yeah but signing a young pitcher and giving him a non roster invite to spring training isn’t any of those things. I don’t think anyone is disputing the Sox are dysfunctional. This just isn’t an example of it. If they weren’t inviting guys like this that would be further evidence of incompetence, not the other way around.

I don’t see how Wacha comes close to that when numerous superior pitchers signed for less

Abreu is going to absolutely own the Sox. I’m calling it here first. 1.000+ ops is my bet

Sox got Lynn in a trade for Dunning. No way to criticize that move imo. They turned Eaton into Gio, Lopez and Lynn. Can’t beat that kind of turnaround.(well maybe except the trade that shall not be named) It was Keuchel that was signed instead of Wheeler

His mama was screaming “turn it down!”

I don’t even remember the minor one

The vast majority of DV suspensions have been less than 80 games and as low as ten. Considering there is no police report and only apparent evidence is a couple photos of scratches, and that Clevinger denies it, he is most likely going to get a lesser suspension. With Bauer there was a cracked skull, medical records, police report and a virtual admission by Bauer, albeit claiming she asked for it. Dyson’s year long suspension involved rape. Unless something is missing, MLB doesn’t appear to have grounds for a longer than average suspension. If you look at the other cases the average is around 50-60 games. So it might save the Sox a few million. At any rate, no reason to believe the Sox will be off the hook, based on past cases.

Was Pablo on steroids? Never knew. Kind of beside the point but this is the forum where the mods are the trolls so par for the course

These are the kind of moves I’d expect any team to make. What’d you say when the Sox signed a 30 year old with 100 career ABs that hadn’t played mlb in almost two years called Pablo Ozuna in Jan 2005? Let me guess you were celebrating signing a quality utility player like world series winners do.

Welfare is a pittance, by definition. So you are saying the state won’t offer welfare but it offers a pittance. Great point

Sure that’s possible. But notifying an employer and posting on instagram would serve to similarly provoke such a person, without providing any possible resolution to that threat. So it seems kind of nonsensical. There is nothing instagram or mlb can do to physically keep him away from her or the child, so if that were her concern, the action doesn’t follow. If we look at the previous seventeen suspensions under this policy, they followed a report to police.

So posting on instagram rather than notifying police somehow is less dangerous?

There are many justifications for not reporting child abuse to police? Such as?

I said less than fifty million not five million Grandal, Graveman, Kelly, Diekman and Giolito takes approx fifty million off the books with which Gio could be replaced. The collective production we have received from the relievers could be had at 1-2 million per for three relievers on an average market. Grandal is useless as this point so replacing him wouldn’t be more than a league minimum player. So that would leave around 44 million to replace Gio with

s%*#. That sucks. Still I think we could find a starting pitcher for less than 50 million

Giolito is gone after this year. Also paying 18.5 million to Grandal and 17.5 million for a couple middle relievers, plus Giolito’s contract. And Leury and Diekman. I don’t know maybe Gio could be replaced or re-signed for some of that 55+ million? Guys like Leury, Diekman and Grandal can be replaced at league minimum for their current levels of production. The following year Moncada, Liam, TA and Lynn. That’s another sum close to 80 million. If you stop spending on replacement level utility infielders and relievers that produce at a comparable level to guys who sign for 1-2 mil/year it shouldn’t be that hard to come up with a MLB third baseman and short stop and a couple of starters over those two years to supplement the core in year three and beyond. After those four years that could be somewhat reasonably mapped out at this point, you will have an entirely new batch of prospects. If it fails then acquire new ones via a fire sale Also I just realized you were talking about the Dolphins rather than Marlins. Seriously man? You think an NFL team should be a model? Come on now

Correct me if I am wrong here, but all these previous examples of mlb suspensions involve the victim filing an actual report with police. Which is lacking in this case for some unknown reason

If they traded for Chisholm they’d have Jimenez, Robert, Benintendi, Vaughn, Colas and Chisholm for the next four years, with Moncada and Anderson off the books after year two. Our catcher situation is currently Seby and Perez unless you believe Grandal isn’t already cooked, either way Grandal’s 18.5 mil coming off the books along with tens of millions worth of other contracts. I just don’t see why TA’s and Moncada’s spots couldn’t be covered after two years by the acquisition of major league players, Five years from now they will have had five years to acquire and develop new prospects. I just don’t see how Montgomery could be untouchable when the current core could be competitive over the next few years with a couple key acquisitions. And I don’t see how Miami is the perfect example of anything other than how to consistently lose 90+ games a year.

I’d rather have a star major league player. You can always acquire and develop more prospects during the years that player is actually helping the major league team. With the contracts coming off the books in the next 1-2 years the sox can acquire major league talent to finish the major league roster

Interesting. The twins just traded for him on january 10 for a minor league pitcher then dfa’d him when they signed Taylor

Seems like exactly the kind of guy you want as insurance. If he wasn’t bad last year he wouldn’t be available as insurance. But he has been pretty good at times in the past, so either he helps us, gets cut or eats innings at charlotte

Damn, Chuck