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Well right, it sounds like we agree. If all of Colson's options are used, he probably just sucks at baseball. What's the point in waiting until a mid-season call up to find out? To win a couple extra games with a 30something SS with no trade value? Seems like you're actually hampering the player's development by starting him off with a staff he definitely won't finish the season with; plus it's just offensive. I'd take it personally. Get him around the major league team ASAP and the new coaching staff. I'm genuinely surprised that people think he is being rushed, he's practically graying. By the way, Jackson Merrill OPS'd considerably lower than Colson in AA in 2023 and was rewarded with a major league call-up. How'd that work out for the Padres. I think they're comparable players. Same draft class, both high schoolers, both play 'defense-first' positions and had similar prospect rankings. Not a 1:1 comparison, but he had a mediocre AA season then immediately had an excellent MLB season.

oh that's hilarious! "hey internet, how much should we pay Severino?"

Where'd you see those? I opened the application but couldn't find it.

It's fairly arbitrary but there was also a league-mandated deadline to add him to the roster. I don't think it's about 'earning' it so much as he has run out of time to be babied and he should prove that he's an MLB player. I don't think you can say a guy is being rushed if he makes it to rule 5 eligibility. Especially someone with his supposed credentials and in an environment where guys are making the majors earlier than ever before. He's been in MILB forever, it's time to show something. At this point, it's on the player, and I suspect Colson thinks so too. I just think every party involved, Colson, the team, the fans wants to see him make the opening day roster and I don't see a good argument why he shouldn't make it. Or why the entire roster shouldn't be 25 or younger. If he really sucks, fine, option him, but nobody rushed him to the majors. There's a contradiction between two common fan perspectives: "why are these old bums playing over the kids?" and "why are these kids being rushed when old bums could be playing?". Two reasonable, context-specific questions, but what is gained by signing Jose Iglesias? so Colson can 'earn' it? Strikes me as poor management, a good way to piss off a player the organization holds in high esteem. That almost certainly affects job performance. What happens to Colson if he makes the opening day roster and blows it? His back is going to explode and he'll fall into a deep, Steve Blass-esque depression? Is everybody already writing off Jackson Holliday and his sub.600 OPS?

Sure, Martinez had a very nice season and was paid a fair contract. You could say the same thing about Wacha, a very good pitcher paid a fair amount (perhaps underpaid). Fedde was objectively a steal though. Somebody within the organization thought it was a good idea to pay him. If the Mets were in on him, they definitely could've used him and have an unlimited budget, they could've paid him. As I say, glass half full, that feels like a good sign. Now just figure it out with every other department, not just 30+ pitchers.

out of that list, I'd call Fedde the 'steal' of it. it's too bad it turned into Vargas (jury's still out on him I guess), but you gotta give the front office credit for seeing something there though, that evidently only 'wunderkind' Stearns also saw. I suppose the discussion is about something different, but I don't know what Fedde's deal has to do with anything. He was probably in discussion with teams well before he eventually signed with the Sox...but the market was dry for him. Had to think he was expecting a bigger payday. Do we think the Reds would've rather paid Nick Martinez $21mil for 4.0 bWAR or Erick Fedde $7.5mil for 5.6 WAR? Easy to say in hindsight. I guess this is to say, glass half full perspective, it's probably a good thing that the Sox were able to identify Fedde as a useful player when other teams didn't. There was no point in signing Martinez, Gibson, Maeda, re-treading Lance, etc. I tend to think there's reason to be optimistic that the organization is at least competent on the pitching side of things. My hope going into next season is that some of these new hires can help out on the other side of the ball. Jury's out on Getz.

Is that not a minor league deal? edit: nope. hmm.

Not much to discuss! I was wondering the same thing about the Nicky Lopez clearing waivers thread; I blinked and it was four pages.

Oh duh I forgot if a team selects the player, he has to be on the major league roster the whole season. You’re right, Gladney wouldn’t last. Hack might (his glove is ok, arm great, bat bad) and so might some of those pitchers. Colson is obviously a no brainer. Mcgough, hoopii, schoenle (try spelling these names on mobile from memory) could probably stick on a mlb team. I’d keep any one of those guys over, say, Gavin sheets.

Someone like Salvy? I wish it was offseason 2023 and the worst thing we could’ve done was trade for Perez.

I have a good feeling about Gladney and still Hackenberg. I think another team might actually select Gladney above some of those pitchers. Frankly there are like 5 or 6 guys I’d want to protect. Would’ve been nice to see a trade to clear up some 40man space.

Is Austin Slater about to produce 10 WAR for the Angels between June and August?

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lux sux why do I keep thinking your avatar of aj pierzynski is the vice president-elect? the beard only highlights the weak chin, it doesn't mask it. somebody needs to tell these guys.

if Zavala turns out to be a good player, is the Cease trade a 'good' trade? Sure wasn't the package I would've wanted, predicated on a pitcher who throws as slow as I do. I just don't think you can actually 'grade' this deal yet. It strikes me as difficult to judge any baseball trade in the moment unless it is for major league talent. The Dodgers obviously did something smart by acquiring Edman and Kopech even if Vargas turns into something. Was the Fedde deal a good one? I don't think so. Again though, the jury is out, though Vargas is arguably the worst MLB player I've ever watched play on a semi regular basis. But he was acquired for essentially nothing; the Fedde deal was smart, a move that no other team thought to make, I think you have to give Getz credit for that if you're going to critique what he was traded for. Why I actually opened this thread was to congratulate Crochet for winning Comeback Player of the Year! However, he's not really 'coming back' from anything. He's always been good, he's just finally healthy and was given an opportunity to start. He deserves some credit for his excellent season that nobody anticipated. I want to '#throw back thursday' to all those SoxTalk posters and facebook users who thought he sucked and wouldn't be able to start because "well look at the previous innings he pitched". pseudo-statistical 'projection'. it's meaningless. I'm sure MLB teams still 'project' players based on their three previous years' performance. meaningless and unhelpful.