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Julien is primed for something big...hope it isn't now.

did Jirschele send him? that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen

wtf?

let's go!

didn't realize the Twins had any relievers left with a sub 10 ERA

sure, but $72mil is payroll on a rebuilding team that was obviously not going to compete. 2022 Sox payroll was $203,205,326 (according to Spotrac), so the contract is less than 2%. In terms of free agent acquisitions and not pre-arb players, it's nothing. Although, I'm of the opinion that teams should be mostly arb/pre-arb guys and a handful of inefficient, big money contracts for actual good players that fit a need. Bryce Harper's $/WAR is not efficient like, say, Roman Anthony.

Perhaps. I didn't like the signing because I thought we had plenty of infielders already and it blocked a guy. Thought he should've been DFA'd sooner. But I also thought, prior to spring training, Colson should've started the season with the team. Which was dumb to think. So maybe it's good that Rojas "blocked" him while he got his game in order. I still think it's a bad signing because Korey Lee should've started the season with the team. Lee is a good player and I bet we could've done that Freddy Fermin deal (maybe not for 2 RPs though), especially because Lee was actually hitting to start the year. Jake Amaya could've done everything Rojas did. Rojas was completely unnecessary. I'm just only saying it's not so much money. Well, it's a lot of money, they could've paid you or me that money and the result would be pretty much the same and we'd definitely enjoy the millions. You'd probably offer better commentary. Although Rojas seems like a charismatic dude, I liked his bump on the radio broadcast. Maybe JR thinks this, but I dunno. The Sox spending patterns seem pretty consistent over the years. I'm not sure a player like that moves the needle in his determination to spend or not. I think the Benintendi contract does. I'd be interested in signing Kyle Tucker to a big contract, but maybe that's a bad idea that leaves a bad taste in ownership's mouth.

Benintendi has the noodliest arm. How did this guy win a GG

if I were the other team, I would only throw Colson four-seam fastballs until he proves he can actually hit them. That was his problem in the minors, it's still a problem. He's not hitting velocity. He's crushing basically everything else. He's crushing two-seamers and cutters. But when the fastball gets a little faster... Prior to this game, he has a .114 average against 4-seamers and it's the pitch he sees the most, it's dragging down his stats. If he figures it out, he's a superstar. But I think that's where his bust potential still lies. Pretty bad against changeup too, but low sample size. It also looks a lot like a 4-seam fastball...

I watched a little bit of some 'banana ball' earlier. Party Animals vs Tailgaters. Not the Savannah team. It just seemed like boring baseball being played in cutoff shirts. Lots of commercials and otherwise just regular, non-professional baseball with some guys shimmying their shoulders in the background. Some guy rode around on a 4 wheeler and hi-fived some kids. They played some cornhole. They brought out Logan Forsythe as the 'MLB star' (remember him? barely) who took a walk and probably should've struck out looking but got some generous calls. Maybe the Savannah guys are showmen, but these other dudes certainly were not.

I'm not sure you can call $3.5 mil precious money. Precious, wasted money is Willy Adames at $187 million and 1.5 WAR. Anthony Santander at $92.5mil and -1.0 WAR. Sean Manea, $75mil, -0.2 WAR Tanner Scott, $72mil, 0 WAR Luis Severino, $67mil, 0.8 WAR Christian Walker, $60mil -0.4 WAR You can see where I'm going with this. $3.5 mil is nothing. It's a nothingburger. It's only something because a different player could've been on the roster. Andrew Benintendi is wasted money, Josh Rojas is a flyer that didn't work out.

dunno why anyone would throw Colson a breaking ball. absolutely smoking them

I'd take that bet

why am I watching opera videos on youtube and the advertisement i can't skip is grant taylor and sean burke working at a fish market in seattle? what in the world? anyone see this? it's usually spanish language beer ads. definitely not a thought worthy of its own thread, but are the sox paying for 'viral' advertisements now? they should advertise to people who don 't already have sox-stockholm syndrome

That’s awesome but also can’t believe it’s never happened. Like, Ozzie never managed against a fellow Venezuela guy?

Welp, everything I wrote in this thread is absolutely an opinion. One "tells" opinions just as one "tells" facts. "Telling" and "opining" are not opposites. They're related in the sense that both are verbs and they communicate a thought. Interestingly, I'm not sure if there's a verb form of "fact" like there is with "opinion". I'm also functionally illiterate and I don't know many words, but I know the difference between a fact and an opinion. Evidently many do not. Facts are, like, you know, things that aren't disputable. "X player has Z batting average" is a fact. "On August 18, 2026, The Chicago White Sox beat the Atlanta Braves 13-9" is a fact. "Batting average is more important than OBP" is an opinion that might also be a fact. That's a little more challenging. I read a great article with statistical evidence as to why it might be true. It's a worthy discussion. "I like the strategic aspects of pinch hitting for a pitcher" is an opinion. "I don't like the designated hitter for xyz reason" is clearly an opinion. I also definitely did not write "worse hitters make the game more exciting." It's a total misrepresentation. I don't know if the misrepresentation is willful or what, but it's annoying and rude. Your opinion is "it robs fans of a better experience", a fair perspective to have, if you think it robs you of a better experience. You're entitled to your opinion and I respect it. I think it is bombastic language though that I wouldn't use, I'm saying, "this is what I think, some people agree with me". Much less rhetorical. I'm not winning any presidential elections talking like that. Never gonna be a TikTok influencer, alas. It isn't the intention to offend you, seemingly you took it personally because somebody has a different opinion than you, and I try to write in such a way that doesn't make it personal. I wish other people felt and wrote the same way and weren't offended by differing perspectives. Seems like bad argumentation too. I wrote a bunch of reasons why I dislike the DH and nobody actually replied to it. Talked past it. It's a bully tendency. I don't even care, really, but I care about people being internet bullies...which is a lot of people on this forum for whatever reason. It's quite a hostile place. Was it less hostile when the team was good? I haven't been posting here very long. In your post, you are hung up something I simply didn't write. I said I like the strategic aspects of potentially pinch hitting for a pitcher who is having a good game. It makes the manager a relevant factor in the outcome of ballgames. I think if you watch baseball to see home runs, you're gonna have a bad time. Go watch a more action-packed sport. Basketball is a fun sport to watch and there's a lot of scoring. My opinion is that pitching is what makes baseball a sport worth watching. The physics and metaphysics behind it is very cool. My opinion is that a baseball player should have to play both offense and defense. I think, like I said, extending players' careers is a good argument in favor of your opinion that the DH is worthwhile. People made fun of me without actually addressing the argument though. Make it personal. I elaborated on it anyway that clearly there is no logical connection between a bad hitter in the lineup and more hits... Could also reply to the actual point if you really wanted instead of, ya know, putting words in my mouth. My words are written down, you can go back and look at them. Or not, because again, you know, who gives a s%*#, I'm not replying to this thread anymore. It's not like it's a wild perspective that people preferred NL baseball to the AL though. I already stated my perspective on standardization. It's boring in every fucking field, specifically art and literature, not just sports. Outdoor baseball is fun because the playing conditions are never the same. Playing inside a dome in climate-controlled conditions is not much fun. It's sterile. It's bad architecture too. That's an opinion by the way. You are welcome to disagree, it's a free country, it's no skin off my back, it has no bearing on the outcome of either one of our lives. Watching baseball and playing in a beer league is a fun, almost childish hobby. Getting offended over it is sort of wild to me.

why is everything an argument with you people...

A baseball at bat usually ends in failure. That’s how it works. Basketball is more fun in this regard. Soccer is I guess also very boring. You’re putting words in my mouth too.

It’s not f*** Frank Thomas, if its f*** anybody, it’s f*** Dan Pasqua (who Frank replaced at 1b anyway), f*** Wil Cordero and his 6 career WAR. Frank played more at 1b than people remember. Maybe Konerko doesn’t join the team ever, which would be kinda sad. Small price to pay. anyway, this thread isn’t about the DH, but it is about making baseball into a neat little product to sell to non-baseball fans who will never like the sport anyway outside of highlights they see on TikTok

Of course it is. Maybe you pinch hit for the starting pitcher who’s having a great game on the mound. Maybe a guy like Michael Lorenzen is a more valuable player than he is otherwise. I don’t have any memory of a DHless American League, but interleague actually used to be fun. Standardization isn’t fun, it’s boring. Might as well have all teams play indoors with the same dimension field. On Maldonado, this is how you get the “golden at bat”. Slippery slope. I mean, yeah, if you can’t play 50% of the game anymore, maybe it’s time to retire. Extending careers is the best logic for the DH, but that’s not why they do it. 700 is a pretty arbitrary figure anyway. Do you think differently about Pujols if he only hits, I dunno, 614 home runs? The tail end of his career was pretty bad. It’s Pete Rose logic. The guy is the leader in hits despite being really bad for the last 5 or so seasons of his careers. Who cares about a contrived record. Albert probably could’ve played the field anyway that last season, his bat was actually good, but he wasn’t beating out Goldschmidt. Why should a dinosaur get an opportunity over a young player who can actually play 100% of the game? I know it’s the internet, but sometimes a joke is still pretty obvious. The undertone of the joke was that if you like watching hits, instituting the DH is much less impactful than small ball. Veeck thought home runs were pretty boring relative to small ball, so he put in the famous SoxPark pinwheel fireworks. Swinging for the fences or throwing 100mph is the appropriate strategy to win baseball games; but it isn’t more exciting.

His daughter wasn't born when he played here. I don't think anyone cares about the injuries, they care that he was good at baseball. To your point, I dunno if he has a nice backstory or whatever. Signing out of Venezuela is cool in its own right, but not particularly unique. I guess neither is getting injured (especially if you play for the White Sox) He loves his mom and his wife though and is a smiley guy. we like a smiley guy. Jake is a great guy obviously. Miss his attitude. Love that his first instinct regarding his daughter is to stay positive and to start a foundation to help a whole lot of other children. Miss his personality more than the home runs. I guess my point was they're both silver linings to otherwise bad, hard to watch seasons. The fanbase sorta wrote off both guys and then they turned it on in their mid 20s (similar tier prospect out of the draft/international free agency I'd say, comparable in that way). I think Sosa will be the better player ultimately. Jake is turning it on in the second half too though. Guy probably has other things on his mind, especially to start the season...

Fangraphs puts him at 32nd in dWAR out of 80 players who have played more than 100 innings at second base. Guess that makes him above average. 1.2 dWAR isn't "great" but it's also "above replacement". Former #1 prospect Jackson Holliday is at -1.9 for reference. Is anyone questioning his 2b chops? Dude is the Jake Burger of this season, when are Sox fans gonna realize?

I do. Some of us like strategy. Some of us like the excitement of Bartolo Colon hitting a bomb or Dylan Cease going 3 for 3 while striking out 11. Incredibly memorable. Baseball is a very boring sport if you only watch it to see dingers. Lots more hits per game, higher batting averages when pitchers were hitting, just sayin'.