WhiteSox2023

The sad thing is that a very small number of posters on this message board actually liked most of Getz’s moves this offseason and probably buy into the ? that Grifol is selling.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Buehrle could still outpitch some of the suck on our 40-man roster.

Grifol on Grifol: “I’m an idiot when it comes to player evaluations.”

Makes you wonder, did Getz really think he could build what JR was expecting this year — just a few tweaks and the Sox could be a contending team — or did he just promise the world to get the GM job?

Agreed. Those walks though…

Sure, but he was also a guy who Getz should have been quick to drop for a more promising and younger DFA.

This trade would’ve made more sense if it was the Cubs receiving Horn and the Sox receiving Thompson. A situational lefty isn’t a very dire need for a team competing for last place. The Sox should be the team acquiring young starters, not trading them away.

Long-relief (a.k.a. sacrificial lamb to the longball gods).

Carved out a role as what exactly? He was absolutely terrible last year and he was turning 30. A guy like Scholtens taking up a spot on the roster is why Getz does not have roster crunch issues. 85 innings 1-9 record (yes, it’s a team stat but a record this bad is hilarious nonetheless) 5.29 ERA 1.53 WHIP 100 hits 58 strikeouts 30 walks

DeSchlong.

It would be pretty sad if Mena has success with the DBacks and the Cubs Pitch Lab turns Thompson into something.

Yes, trading young and bad for old and bad doesn’t seem like the best strategy in baseball GM’ing. Just like how you should always be quick to drop a 29 year old pitcher with a 5+ ERA off of your 40-man roster to claim a 24 year old lefty outfield prospect.

TJ surgery set for Friday. Getz couldn’t dare drop this talented 29 year old pitcher with a 5+ ERA in 2023 last week to make room for a waiver claim of 24-year old OF prospect Canaan Smith-Njigba. ?

I love how you think it’s an outrageous thought that the Sox could ever make a bad trade. Their free agent signings are bad enough before you even begin discussing their poor trades.

Yes, give him even more guaranteed cushion to be lazy and unmotivated. I think we have already learned that this idea didn’t work for either Moncada or Eloy the first time around.

He pimp-slaps harder than he slaps the ball around.

Do you really think Billy Seidl has more money than this girl?

There seems to be different listings on Fletcher’s height. His college page and FanGraphs both have him at 5’9”. I doubt he got shorter since college but maybe this listing was inaccurate to begin with. This would be a nice question for a reporter to ask him but Sox media guys are too busy worshipping Getz and Grifol. https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/roster/dominic-fletcher/ https://www.fangraphs.com/players/dominic-fletcher/26149/stats?position=OF MLB.com has him listed at 5’6” and 195. 195 pounds would be pretty damn stout for 5’6” unless he was all muscle, so I tend to believe that he’s 5’9”. Just for a comparison, Jose Altuve is listed at 5’6”, 166 pounds at MLB.com.

If Fletcher ends up being a platoon outfielder with a .764 OPS, it doesn’t look like a very good trade.

If Fletcher was in his early 20’s rather than 26, this trade really would’ve made more sense.

I thought this trade was great when I heard Mena was topping off at 92. If he can maintain 94-96, man, I don’t know about this one. Getz’s obsession with grindy players like him may be his undoing.

The worst case scenario about this trade looks to be coming true. Mena has apparently found his lost velocity this spring with the Diamondbacks. “Prospect Cristian Mena’s velocity popping at Diamondbacks' camp“

Isn’t it also possible that these guys are just not good enough / injury-prone players / busts that weren’t going to make it regardless? I sure see a lot of other team’s top prospects get called up at much younger ages and tear it up.

No arguments here.

Sorry, I should have compared him to Lopez. I’d rather have Rosario at 2B. DeJong was cheap enough that he doesn’t really matter, although he’s so bad he should have been a minor league signing with a ST invite. Either way, tough to see how these guys will score any runs.